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Hello,

 

I recently bought a  Mk1 Escort and it is sitting high at the front. It has Bilstein struts on the front, I bought the car with these on and have no way of identifying them.

 

I have recently fitted new 2" lowered springs from Burton but the car is still sitting high and definitely not 2" lower.

 

I have started to wonder if the spring seat on the struts is to high or the inserts to long and just wondered is anyone has any advice?

 

Regards

 

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fit std wings against those and then look at the difference

those wings are the RS/AVO wings and the arch is different, so you may well need different springs and / or struts to make it look how you want it to

std wings sit nearer the wheel all round, and will make it look lower

 

my E's have those wings and I went for ages after re build saying something isn't right, when it was right for my car, I found a post on a site explaining why it looked high

you need to look at what springs and struts are used on the likes of mexicos and RS2000s


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Did you measure the spring length against the ones you took off ? Looking at the the picture I would be more concerned with the wheel position, looks to far back to me. Does it catch the footwell arch on full lock ? Has it got a double width kit fitted ?

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agreed with Colin, having blown the picture up, the castor looks like its too far back, but I think it possibly looks exaggerated, by the deep dish wheels and AVO wings



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the front wheel doesn't look attached - as though it's been 'offered up'. if it is attached looks like you have something badly wrong.



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Did you measure the spring length against the ones you took off ? Looking at the the picture I would be more concerned with the wheel position, looks to far back to me. Does it catch the footwell arch on full lock ? Has it got a double width kit fitted ?

 

I agree with Col. Yes its too high at the front but could be castor related thats forcing the wheel back and in turn raising the front. I think the car has the wrong front stabiliser  bar or the bar mounts for that particular bar. Its like it has a Twincam stabiliser bar mounts fitted but with with a regular bar. Does this car have double width mounts fitted by any chance?  Retailers often sell the wrong ones and thats similar results when mismatching mounts and bars are fitted.



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Thanks for all the feedback guys. I don't know why but that original picture makes the wheel placement look way out. I will get a couple of others from different angles. 

 

I am not sure about the double width mounts but I will have a look. I am new to this but trying to learn as I go. 

 

The wheels do not scrub on full lock.

 

Thanks and any/all advice is welcome. 



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The springs will take some time to settle so get some miles done in it. Also, and it sounds silly, but when mine has been jacked up and is put back on the ground I have to push down once on each front wing (like testing shockers) to get them to settle. I run -3" springs and GAZ adjustable dampers.

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I see one pic of a spacer/bush from a toproller , have you put this on the car ? and if you did  this was it one the same time ?



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I see one pic of a spacer/bush from a toproller , have you put this on the car ? and if you did  this was it one the same time ?

 

When we took the suspension off we realised that the spacer/bush for the roller top mounts had a piece missing and when the top nut was tightened the mounts were pretty much locked together and that is why the top nuts were actually loose when I bought the car.

 

Anyway, I bought the correct spacer/bush from Burton and the mounts now sit off from each other when tightened and the steering is now light and free as it should be with the roller mounts but I am also aware that the spacer does then raise the car about 20mm. I was then convinced with the 2" lowered springs the car would drop but as you can see in pictures I have linked, it does not look lowered at all.

 

I am not wanting the car to be sitting on the floor and I know that coil overs will cure the issue instantly but I was just wondering if there was something with these Bilstein struts that was not right, that I could change.

 

The springs have now done a few miles so I will get a new decent picture taken and put up.



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Oke i understand , if you already had the toproller before you fit the lower spring than makes it now difference but the toproller rice the car with some 10 mm.

If you had did the measurement before and after than you would know what the changes were.

You can measure the distance from the springseating/hub from your bilstein and a standard leg.

On mine estate i did cut off the toproller bush to get it about 10 mm lower [capri leg coilover/helperspring] and washers otherwise there`s not enough thread let.






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