Built not Bought Feature ?

[Mk2Jo]

Agreed

[richie_stix]

Ok, I've got to defend the 'chequebook' owners... as you would expect

 

A home built car... a box of bits all bolted on, but someone made those bits, its not like the owner went into his shed with a melting pot and some sand and cast his own M16 calipers, he didnt go into the shed the next day with a length of round spring steel and wound his own lowering springs around the leg of a table .... bits are still bought, ok, second hand parts from ebay etc, bits stored for years, etc ... there is many a home built car that has cost thousands.. thats the joy of an escort, a competant mechanic in his garage can build a Gp4 car. Its home built.. Look at Windy Millers new car, he built the shell, hes soursed the bits for the engine, hes been down here nicking bits of rollcage tubing to build his box up with, to push the gears on, etc etc ..at the end of that home build, he'll have an accurate Gp4 Historic car.. around 80k's worth. Its built in the Garage besides his mum and dads house.

 

So i dont think the term home built is correct.. how much is a Caterham costing today, its home built !!!

 

And then you have the people who have payed out for a car to be built.. and these people sometimes just dont have the time, or realise that they dont know a M12 from a 1/2"UNF .... Pockets got slated on a thread once for having a chequebook car... hes a chef... and when you look into what he did to get HIS car, you have to admire him, he worked.. and he worked dammed hard, the recent Hells Kitchen programe ..with that lot doing 60 covers ... Pockets and his kitchen do 1200 covers a day .... thats work.

 

I know other people who run their own businesses that work 16-18 hours days 7 days a week... they want a toy, something to blast away the stress of the work, something to wind down in... when could they build a car, they dont have the time ...

 

I know people who have tried building a car.. its taking years, its a struggle as they just dont have the skills .. some people can bash metal.. some can operate on your brain... does that make the brain surgeon less of a man because he cant rebuild a second hand caliper from ebay without stripping the threads and splitting the seals .. no. Some of these people have taken second jobs on to pay for the cars to be done.. Jono (GJUK) had a shell once, he needed a roof on it, he tried, and the results, well the shell was scrapped i belive. He then went a bought a car, and enjoyed driving it.. instead of tearing his hair out trying to weld when he cant.

 

So lets not slate the 'chequebook' builds.. lets respect each others wishes and skills, at the end of the day, the brain surgeon will chat to you about his car, same as the mechanic will chat about his.. and you'll both drive the fecker as hard as possible at the trackday..and both have the same grins.. because, at the end of the day, your both old car nuts.

 

Its not Chequebook versus budget builds.. because even a chequebook car has a budget.. I couldnt title what it is.. because on the one hand, you dont want the expensive cars..but the opposite to expensive is 'cheap'.. and I wouldnt want to call anyones pride and joy " cheap "

 

And you cant say 'homebuilt' either, as Windy's car shoots that down.

 

I dunno.. i just cant come up with something that fits, I think CF had it right with the " Grafters " series, which at one point was going to have a car built in my workshop in it. But I supose it dosnt fit, even though Shaun has a full time job, when hes finished repairing insurance jobs for that company, he works away in his Garage painting other peoples cars.. recently staying up till 7am to paint a mk2 for Clint, then went to work, came home and fitted it up, hes a grafter.. he works damm hard, and he could have built his own car, but he can be better used painting your cars, its what hes good at.

 

So, think for a minute, before typing that you dont like chequebook cars, because that owner may have worked bloody hard for his pride and joy. As those guys with the cheque book cars are quite often on the threads saying 'lovely car mate' ... never 'its a bit cheap'

 

and Joy is perhaps the word .. "Joy for your Buck" .. its your pride and joy, no matter how much it cost..

 

well said! i tried sanding down and preping a tailgate for the capri... failed, and i'm now getting it shot blasted so i can prime and paint... does that make me flash cash or budget?

 

A sweet car is a sweet car

[lee_capri]

budget and cash are all way's a gray area

 

to be honest i dont care who does what to what and how much they spend that's up to them

 

be nice to see a shoot out between the pro's and home builder's,but not only in power but build qualitey has well,

 

and to be honest i think if we all had the cash to pay some one else to build the car for us we would has it would save a lot of time and headacke's but that's life you cant have your cake and eat it

[zetecmk2]

i've always built things cheap, out of old 2nd hand bits and a bit if adaptation/fabrication. it's like a "pride" thing. i WILL do it!! but then things keep braking where they are beyond what they are designed to do. (pinto alt mount on a zetec springs to mind. only 2 bolts fit, but it does the job! then breaks (mine did last night!!) i still had a year of everyday driving before it cracked!! so i'll buy 2, cheap!! but my cars are no less loved by me than your £k70 super build is loved by you!!

(wait til you see the gt40 budget build!!)

[Noodles]

Interesting My car has no overheads, saved for months for some parts If i dont know how to do something I learn all at the weekends constantly

[emu]

i've always built things cheap, out of old 2nd hand bits and a bit if adaptation/fabrication. it's like a "pride" thing. i WILL do it!! but then things keep braking where they are beyond what they are designed to do. (pinto alt mount on a zetec springs to mind. only 2 bolts fit, but it does the job! then breaks (mine did last night!!) i still had a year of everyday driving before it cracked!! so i'll buy 2, cheap!! but my cars are no less loved by me than your £k70 super build is loved by you!!

(wait til you see the gt40 budget build!!)

 

Interesting My car has no overheads, saved for months for some parts If i dont know how to do something I learn all at the weekends constantly

 

Thats the the type of attitude that I think of if someone says "my car is a budget build", or "Its built not bought".

 

It is certainly the one that I have taken with my own car. (Well, except the saving bit, If its that expensive then I lose interest rapidly!! ). If I wasnt sure how to do something then I learnt, or worked it out for myself. I could spent the money to have it built to its current spec and look, but then it would have cost me a load more than the 2 grand it owes me

 

I dont think of the description as taking anything away from so called 'chequebook' cars. I simply see it as a way of describing a car that has been built on a tighter budget, and it doesnt take anything away from them either.

 

I appreciate that all cars are built by someone, and I appreciate that people work bloody hard to pay to have cars built for them. Its just some people dont like to spend if they dont need too*

 

 

 

 

*(That isnt meant in a negative way, I just cant think of a better way to phrase it )

[zetecmk2]

my starter motor died tonight!

but i will rebuild it!

or adapt my crossmember to accept another!

or something else as i need it for work on tuesday!!

[mansfieldclassicford]

im a home builder, i built a wooden frame, covered it in plastic sheets and tin roofing sheets, drove my van into it, stript it down and i am currently rebuilding it and respraying it all by myself , i am a mechanic by trade but i know several lads that are building project cars themselves and dont know a lot. but they get by, they ask and learn, read books, but we all learn how to do things ourselves, every day is a learning day i learn summat new every day, i only use my credit card to mix filler, im a buget builder and i think some of the best cars are built in this way, keep it up boys and girls, home builds all the way at the end of the day theres nowt like thrashing the pants off a bought car with your budget racer that you built in ya shed whilst havin a few cold tinnys. end of.

[5hane]

i know some one who might be interested.

 

how far away is this going to be done?