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...I know there was an article in CF, but they didnt go into drivability to much.

 

Also is there a likely hood the welds can break due to strain?

 

Im not being tight, just that 500 notes could be spent on more pressing upgrades.

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A good mate of mine, who has a vast experience of driving HiPo RWD cars tried one in a Mk2 escort, within 2 weeks the car had broken 2 half shafts and gone thru a hedge backwards.

Seems loke a good idea, BUT they are---- Spitefull, horrible, unpredicable, and bloody dangerous, breaks halfshafts at 2mph, scrubs the fook out of your tires, and TBH I cant beleve CF published such a irrisponsible feature, there are reasons why LSDs exist, buy one!!!!

and as a afterthought, Name me a car that has a fixed diff from the factory, they all have Diffs for a reason

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A good mate of mine, who has a vast experience of driving HiPo RWD cars tried one in a Mk2 escort, within 2 weeks the car had broken 2 half shafts and gone thru a hedge backwards.

Seems loke a good idea, BUT they are---- Spitefull, horrible, unpredicable, and bloody dangerous, breaks halfshafts at 2mph, scrubs the fook out of your tires, and TBH I cant beleve CF published such a irrisponsible feature, there are reasons why LSDs exist, buy one!!!!

and as a afterthought, Name me a car that has a fixed diff from the factory, they all have Diffs for a reason

 

Noted Ian, the safety aspect is important to me.

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Welded diffs are not allowed if you take it to the Pod or Shakey (if they know about it) they had one do a u turn into one of the stands, was talking to the scrutineer at Shakey about it on Sunday, he did ask the question......

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we bought a mk1escort with a welded diff we didnt know about 10 mile up the road on the A-frame the diff seized and ripped the axle out the back of the car at 60 mph, luckily the car had massive wheels and the axle remained jammed under the boot floor till we pulled over :(

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...I know there was an article in CF, but they didnt go into drivability to much.

 

Also is there a likely hood the welds can break due to strain?

 

Im not being tight, just that 500 notes could be spent on more pressing upgrades.

it will be the best 5ton you'll ever spend mate, welded dif'fs as already said are dangerous, ok for dicking around on an airstrip, but as for driving one on the road it has to be an open or lsd/atb diff :thumbsup: ,

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Just get an LSD mate. You say there are more important things to spend your cash on but i think getting a slipper is the BEST mod for any OSF.

The best 500 quid you'll ever spend i reckon. :thumbsup:

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Just get an LSD mate. You say there are more important things to spend your cash on but i think getting a slipper is the BEST mod for any OSF.

The best 500 quid you'll ever spend i reckon. :thumbsup:

 

I thought the same as Dazza when I contemplated getting an LSD. Luckily I took Sambo's advice and took the plunge for a plate type LSD.

 

Honestly is the best £500 Ive ever spent.

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I've been thinking the same thing, getting a welded diff, but after reading this I have changed my mind. :thumbsup:

 

So where's the best place to buy an LSD from? I wouldnt trust ebay for one.

 

Steve

 

Probably tran-x as they will sell you just the LSD or fully build one into your existing diff

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Welded diffs are not allowed if you take it to the Pod or Shakey (if they know about it) they had one do a u turn into one of the stands, was talking to the scrutineer at Shakey about it on Sunday, he did ask the question......

so what happens with a spool or detroit locker diff?. lock diffs are fine for drifting and grass track but as for street as ian says there dangeous.

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I got a Quaife ATB LSD at Ford Fair a couple of years ago for £400! This winter when the axle comes out to get braced/rebuilt, it's going in!! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

They just bolt in, no complicated set up and you can use the standard grade oil. Or so they say... 8)

 

Cheers

 

Matt out

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I got a Quaife ATB LSD at Ford Fair a couple of years ago for £400! This winter when the axle comes out to get braced/rebuilt, it's going in!! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

They just bolt in, no complicated set up and you can use the standard grade oil. Or so they say... 8)

 

Cheers

 

Matt out

that's what iv just fitted, still got to connect the brakes before i try it out properly, but first impressions are good :twisted:

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A good mate of mine, who has a vast experience of driving HiPo RWD cars tried one in a Mk2 escort, within 2 weeks the car had broken 2 half shafts and gone thru a hedge backwards.

Seems loke a good idea, BUT they are---- Spitefull, horrible, unpredicable, and bloody dangerous, breaks halfshafts at 2mph, scrubs the fook out of your tires, and TBH I cant beleve CF published such a irrisponsible feature, there are reasons why LSDs exist, buy one!!!!

and as a afterthought, Name me a car that has a fixed diff from the factory, they all have Diffs for a reason

 

i was thinking of complaning to cf mag i have owned a car that had the diff welded and would agre its one of the most stupedest things you could do to a road car

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ive got a welded diff and its lively in the wet but in the dry the only time it really makes any difference ive found is when you turn sharp at low speeds i welded it up about 2 yars back as £500 for a lsd aint even in my budget range as i have very limited funds so i do what i can with what i can, once you get use to the welded diff you wont even realise its welded unless you go slow and turn sharp

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i love my welded diff makes the car a lot more fun to drive. i only realise it welded when parking or takeing low speed turns.

for what it cost to do i would say try it, if you don't like it it's only a diff you swap other in 45 min's.

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I ran a welded diff in the past, never had a problem with it. I didnt think.

 

I was VERY careful with it when I did it so I got used to how the car drove.

 

BUT, I didnt realise just how horrible it made the car to drive till I took it out again though. I wasnt going sideways constantly, but juddery at slow turns, chewed through back tyres like they were going out of fashion and made the steering really heavy on the move.

 

I took it out for a number of reasons....

 

1. Because it was a bugger to reverse the car into the garage ( its a tight right angle from the alleyway) and I wasnt using the car as much as I could because of that.

 

2. The only time it seemed to be of benefit was if I was doing a burnout up the drag strips, or launching from a standstill. Considering how little I do that compared with normal driving, it was a bit of overkill.

 

Also, the splines were showing signs if twisting on the halfshafts and Ive only got 100ish small horses and very cheap tyres :shock:

 

Personally, if I was that bothered about spinning both wheels again then id splash out and buy an LSD. Im not though, so probably wont.

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It depends how you use your car. I dont know why everyone is saying itll spin you off backwards up a tree and then break into your house and burn it down, cause it wont. I know loads who use them who have never complained. If you doing fast road down tight country lanes then take you time if its muddy or wet because it will slide. On roundabouts of you carry a bit of speed into it, and its wet, itll understeer then oversteer if you throttle on too much. In the dry it shouldnt be a problem. You have to be carefull in the wet though. They good for dragging but they can cause you to tramline a bit.

 

Drifting = win

Dragging = win

Fast road/ Track = probably not a win

 

If you get a Slip diff again the similar applies. Only instead of welding you get a plate type, and fast road / track go ATB. The main difference is that plate types can be far more vicious and lock the wheels right up, great for skidding about, but they can be clunky when driving normally. ATB wont lock 100% but they are much smoother and will still spin both wheels happily. The only time they wont is if all the weight is on the outside wheel round a bend or you try to powerslide out of a junction, sometimes it wont lock then.

 

Drifting = plate type

Dragging = plate type

Fast road / Track = ATB

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welded diffs rule!!!!! i have one on my 2.8 mk3 capri, i love it! a welded diff rarley breaks but it took 4 months of pure abuse to snap one of the diffs, but the half shafts can break alot i have done 2 so far, one was from slapping a curb the other was from drifiting a roundabout, but its not too much of problem to change, and if one dose snap you can still nurse it home! they are gr8 fun for donuts and drifiting! just watch it in the wet, and get used to it b4 taking bends to fast! but go for it m8 i have never looked back! :D as the guys have said it dose judder a bit on lock and when you get it welded make sure u get it done really well!! lots of weld and support so it can hold on!

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