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Who of the after market Control Arm makers have you guys found good for Mk1 Escorts. I have heard some are good and some arent. Online I can see some QH and Borg and Beck. What ones stand out as being pretty good? Given they list the same arms for Mk1 and 2 are they all UNF or Metric? Someone here in Australia (Protex) lists theirs as Mk1 only.  I bought some for the Mk2 a few years back and never even bothered to check the thread on them.

I was after quality tie rod ends as well if there are suggestions.

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We always used to use QH stuff and found to be ok, as far as I’m aware there is no difference in actual tca. As long as you get the nut with them who cares if it’s unf or metric. Unless you want full on authenticity on a mk1 with unf nut with split pin. There is a guy on here who would want that but him name just illudes me at the mo ....lol

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14 minutes ago, colr6 said:

We always used to use QH stuff and found to be ok, as far as I’m aware there is no difference in actual tca. As long as you get the nut with them who cares if it’s unf or metric. Unless you want full on authenticity on a mk1 with unf nut with split pin. There is a guy on here who would want that but him name just illudes me at the mo ....lol

I was more curious than anything since they can be used on both MK1s and 2s did they go with UNF or Metric with these generic control arms? The thread doesn't both me so much but I would like the split pin look for a Twincam. UNF I guess would be helpful because one day I will go back years in the future and wonder how a metric nut got on there. I have never had an issue with anything QH so if there isn't anything stand out better than theirs then I would get a set of them.

Did you solve the Mk1 tie rod end mystery you were having?

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Not as far as know, didn’t get to know what Ray did in the end.

on the tca thread front would say that all replacements would have a metric thread. Cost cutting and all that.

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lots of options open to you RP, give an hour or so and once ive had dinner I will list it all

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on my blue car I originally fitted these, they mimic the genuine ford ones without the cast lettering on the arms, they are without bushes, so you would have to fit bushes, that is somewhat a marathon without the correct tools tbh

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OEM-Style-TCAs-Escort-MK1-MK2-Capri-Not-3-0-PAIR-RD464-Race-Rally-Car/232570080358?hash=item362641cc66:g:IK8AAOxy4dNS4plv

on the purple car I fitted these, yes I did pay £500, they do come with bushes fitted and the cast lettering, as they are genuine ford parts

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pair-of-New-Old-Stock-Genuine-Ford-TCAs-Escort-MK1-2-and-Capri/253077790904?hash=item3aec9ca0b8:g:1sMAAOSw68NZhCP1

so having now stripped the blue car back down, ive pulled off the copies, ive been taking lessons from a certain Yorkshire man, so I bought an original set of genuine ford ones that have been on a car for 40 years, good joints but split boots, and needed re bushing as they had naffy poly, they cost £70 the pair, I bought genuine NOS bushes for £10, and fitted those, bought one tool and borrowed the other, the boot was where I got stumped though, so I ended up buying a pair of new Quinten Hazel ones just for the boots, and if you look at the last page of the blue car resto you will see them

other aftermarket look ok, but I was told if you use the car they wont last anything like the genuine ones did and still do, look at all the pictures of the ones on e-bay, only the oem style mimic the ford in looks

if you want the OEM look ones i took off the blue car, PM me, as they still have the bushes in I fitted 5 years ago, the car has done no more than 10-15 miles on them, or I can do you a set of QH ones without boots if you wanted to fit your boots, but I suspect with the QH ones, you can buy them there cheaper than the postage from the uk

that's all assuming the TC uses the same arms, but ive not seen different ones for sale tbh

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12 hours ago, Ray said:

on my blue car I originally fitted these, they mimic the genuine ford ones without the cast lettering on the arms, they are without bushes, so you would have to fit bushes, that is somewhat a marathon without the correct tools tbh

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OEM-Style-TCAs-Escort-MK1-MK2-Capri-Not-3-0-PAIR-RD464-Race-Rally-Car/232570080358?hash=item362641cc66:g:IK8AAOxy4dNS4plv

on the purple car I fitted these, yes I did pay £500, they do come with bushes fitted and the cast lettering, as they are genuine ford parts

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pair-of-New-Old-Stock-Genuine-Ford-TCAs-Escort-MK1-2-and-Capri/253077790904?hash=item3aec9ca0b8:g:1sMAAOSw68NZhCP1

so having now stripped the blue car back down, ive pulled off the copies, ive been taking lessons from a certain Yorkshire man, so I bought an original set of genuine ford ones that have been on a car for 40 years, good joints but split boots, and needed re bushing as they had naffy poly, they cost £70 the pair, I bought genuine NOS bushes for £10, and fitted those, bought one tool and borrowed the other, the boot was where I got stumped though, so I ended up buying a pair of new Quinten Hazel ones just for the boots, and if you look at the last page of the blue car resto you will see them

other aftermarket look ok, but I was told if you use the car they wont last anything like the genuine ones did and still do, look at all the pictures of the ones on e-bay, only the oem style mimic the ford in looks

if you want the OEM look ones i took off the blue car, PM me, as they still have the bushes in I fitted 5 years ago, the car has done no more than 10-15 miles on them, or I can do you a set of QH ones without boots if you wanted to fit your boots, but I suspect with the QH ones, you can buy them there cheaper than the postage from the uk

that's all assuming the TC uses the same arms, but ive not seen different ones for sale tbh

That's really very useful information. I hadn't placed much importance to the slight differences in control arms especially to the uniqueness of original Mk1 Ford ones before. This site and your posts makes one re-evaluate the value of the attention to smaller details. Having owned them so long its hard for me to sometimes get into the mindset they are valuable classics now and I need go that bit extra effort with originality. I was just going to go with the run of the mill generic ones but after your post I think its important to at minimum get a set of the ones styled like the originals. The car as it happens still has its original arms from 1970 which are clearly the same as the ones you have bought. I often get amazed what original parts are still on the car even the rubber brake lines.  I think the ball joints may be ok (need to get them completely off to be sure) but certainly the bushes have gone and the boots split.

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500 pounds though is a bit over the top I think though so my choices are both the ones you took previously. Fit the complete replica ones or try re-bushing the originals and put on new boots. If the rally design ones that you have still have intact boots (which I gather from your post you cant buy separately) then either way maybe grabbing the ones you have would be the way to go and decide when I have them in my hands whether to fit them complete or use the boots off them? How much were you wanting for them?

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Replacement boots are available, though they will have no markings on them which no doubt the oe ones would have.

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1 hour ago, colr6 said:

Replacement boots are available, though they will have no markings on them which no doubt the oe ones would have.

point me in that direction mate, as I couldn't find any

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I found a few auctions like this but not sure if any of the sizes would be right.

The writing wouldnt matter so much with them being squished down once fitted I would imagine.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNIVERSAL-BALL-JOINT-TRACK-ROD-END-RUBBER-DUST-COVER-KIT-GREASE-FITS-ALL-CARS/181641052280?hash=item2a4aa68078:g:D94AAOSw1ZBUuQjl

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CA rubber dust seal: Ford Escort Mk1/Mk2/Mk3/Mk4 & Capri Mk1/Mk2/Mk3 TCASEAL

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Just now, colr6 said:

CA rubber dust seal: Ford Escort Mk1/Mk2/Mk3/Mk4 & Capri Mk1/Mk2/Mk3 TCASEAL

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You had to get that Burtons bit in didn't you lol, you do it to me every time lol

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2 minutes ago, Rally Pack 2000 said:

I found a few auctions like this but not sure if any of the sizes would be right.

The writing wouldnt matter so much with them being squished down once fitted I would imagine.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNIVERSAL-BALL-JOINT-TRACK-ROD-END-RUBBER-DUST-COVER-KIT-GREASE-FITS-ALL-CARS/181641052280?hash=item2a4aa68078:g:D94AAOSw1ZBUuQjl

though I hate to say it, I think colins Burtons route would be better RP

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26 minutes ago, Ray said:

You had to get that Burtons bit in didn't you lol, you do it to me every time lol

I did try other routes, but that one came up first. Sorry😂😂😂😂😂😂

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You know I looked at Burtons before posting here just to see what they sold and all I saw listed was QH complete control arms for MK1/2. There was no boots listed. I swear these search engines dont give everyone equal results. Those new original control arms you gave me the link to Ray they dont come up in any search even when I go through Ebay UK. So I would never have seen them if you had not provided the link. Its like their best match feature determines if its best for you or not. It happens alot actually. I bet most sellers dont realise their items arent reaching the eyes of as many as they think. I used to blame the old computer but cant do that any more. Maybe its just me, technology crumbles in my hands, its why I keep Escorts!

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Found them! My search parameters excluded them when I needed to abbreviate. (Yes I see they irony so no comment from the gallery LOL) They look pretty good. German made too. It will save me having to take them off a perfectly good set of control arms.  Would still like to get the arms you have Ray in case the joints on these have had it after 50 years. I fear them sitting idle without the car moving with split boots hasn't preserved them very well. I think the replicas will suit me fine.

If Im ordering these boots from Burtons then are their Tie Rod ends good quality as well? There was mention Ray that you may be having some issues getting correct or decent ones?

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It should be said all this came about cleaning the Redback Spiders out from underneath the car as I didnt want them biting the dog who goes under it sometimes and spotted the perished bushes and boots on the arms while I was at it. I moved some Mk2  doors the other day out of the rain and their were full of them and got bit myself. Just stings for a few days but no so good for a little dog if it happened.

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