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With Old Skool Ford prices getting out of control it seemed like a good idea to start a thread where everyone can post information and images when our precious OSFs break the bank.

In 2016 the record was set in Australia for a Mk1 Escort RS1600 at $118,000 AUD. (67,000 Pounds Sterling) Strangely it was LHD so not sure what it was doing here?

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Last year (2018) a new world record price was set for an RS1600 in LeMans Green in the UK for 71,000 Pounds Sterling. ($126,000 AUD)

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Less than 2 weeks later in November 2018 that record was broken again in the UK with the record now standing at 80,000 Pounds Sterling by KGF Classic Cars. The under-body attention to detail quite stunning.

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So if you hear about any record breaking Old Skool Fords, please post them so we know what levels these cars are reaching. Many of us are Classic Car Enthusiasts in general so if you see other interesting classics breaking records I don't think anyone would mind hearing about them too for a bit of discussion.

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I think these prices are absolutely absurd. These are fabulous cars but they are not £80k machines when far more exotic cars in similar condition sell for less. 

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11 minutes ago, Vista said:

I think these prices are absolutely absurd. These are fabulous cars but they are not £80k machines when far more exotic cars in similar condition sell for less. 

They are kind of crazy. I like it when someone with a rusted beater puts reserve prices that matches these pristine fully restored examples on Ebay after they saw what they sold for online.

One of the reasons I left this thread open to other classics is so we can see and compare what other exotics you can get for similar money.

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The thing is with the Rs1600 it has the BD engine which is highly regarded amongst the historic rally boys and there pay £30 k for a new BD easily  plus it’s a rare car now

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35 minutes ago, notenoughtime said:

Truly lovely restored cars though, as said the underneath of the red one is stunning 

how much would a resto of that level cost realistically? 

If you were using all Oe parts don’t think you would be far away from the asking price with paying someone to do it. I know of a Cortina  mk3 near me using all ford panels and majority of stuff been done came out at 50k

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2 hours ago, Xp197777 said:

The thing is with the Rs1600 it has the BD engine which is highly regarded amongst the historic rally boys and there pay £30 k for a new BD easily  plus it’s a rare car now

Yes the BDA engines seem to have started to fetch a premium the past few years. We have had discussions regarding the values of UK and Australian Twincams on here and at that time the value of Twincams was higher than that of RS1600s but since then the value of RS1600s has surged ahead while Twincams have virtually stagnated. In the UK this year a UK Twincam fetched 40,000 pounds and an Australian Twincam fetched 34,000 pounds. Another really good example of a British Twincam is about to come up for Auction and its estimate is also around 40,000 pounds. This price has synched with Australian Twincam price highs, within the last few years. The record paid for an Australian Twincam was the equivalent of 41,000 pounds in 2017 which was surpassed in 2018 with a sale at 44,000 pounds. These RS1600s have virtually doubled in price in a short period of time.

This was the record holder for an Australian Twincam in 2017 at 73,000 Australian Dollars, now surpassed. (It was the 16th Twincam I have driven, I have kept a long for decades LOL Brakes were shocking given it was the most valuable Escort in the country at that time! Now that title is held by the Yellow RS1600 above.)

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3 hours ago, Xp197777 said:

The thing is with the Rs1600 it has the BD engine which is highly regarded amongst the historic rally boys and there pay £30 k for a new BD easily  plus it’s a rare car now

They may pay that figure but it absolutely isn't worth that, even with all the bells and whistles.  It's a simple 4 pot 16 valve belt driven twin cam for God's sake. Profiteering on parts prices is what drives that cost up.

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I agree with col a resto to that standard because lets face it there are two ways to restore a car ,would cost a lot more than one done on the cheap ,oh and RP you gave it an oil leak by the look of it 😂 

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Just been on ebay looking af parts. 6 pot dash for early mex/rs1600 is bids starting at £750. Also a un used service book for rs1600 £300..... 

 

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4 hours ago, Xp197777 said:

I agree with col a resto to that standard because lets face it there are two ways to restore a car ,would cost a lot more than one done on the cheap ,oh and RP you gave it an oil leak by the look of it 😂 

I'm already in trouble for my own oil leaks so no way was that thing adding to it so it had to park on the street. But the reverse happened, it came with an oil leak and I gave it an oil fix. The cam cover gasket wasn't lined up at the front but I keep a spare in the shed so it stopped the leaking purple thing ....... well at the front at least. Its diff leaks like sieve as well. The owner seems to think that when you spend 40 thousand quid on a motor that he shouldn't have to spend any money on it after that. In his mind he bought a restored classic car so that means no work required. These rich newbies have no idea. 🤣

1 hour ago, Mexican Gerbil said:

Just been on ebay looking af parts. 6 pot dash for early mex/rs1600 is bids starting at £750. Also a un used service book for rs1600 £300..... 

 

I have been looking for a cheap 6 dial so I can do some bulb testing, so that does that idea in then, I cant afford that!

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18 minutes ago, Rally Pack 2000 said:

I'm already in trouble for my own oil leaks so no way was that thing adding to it so it had to park on the street. But the reverse happened, it came with an oil leak and I gave it an oil fix. The cam cover gasket wasn't lined up at the front but I keep a spare in the shed so it stopped the leaking purple thing ....... well at the front at least. Its diff leaks like sieve as well. The owner seems to think that when you spend 40 thousand quid on a motor that he shouldn't have to spend any money on it after that. In his mind he bought a restored classic car so that means no work required. These rich newbies have no idea. 🤣

I have been looking for a cheap 6 dial so I can do some bulb testing, so that does that idea in then, I cant afford that!

Cheaper.........but still not cheap

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The current record for a Mk2 RS2000 is this 1980 Custom with less than 1000 miles on the clock. Out the door at 100 thousand pounds.

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When considering these record prices we have to look at them at different levels. Clean Road examples, fully restore examples and ones like this that are really preserved museum pieces that were simply preserved not long after new. Even a fully restored RS2000 wouldn't fetch this kind of money or that of the restored RS1600s above.

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The current record for an Mk1 Escort Mexico stands at 51 thousand pounds for this example. Making it more valuable than the going price for Twincams as well?

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The 6 Dial dash was on ebay last week, it was priced £888.00, it received no bids, it has been relisted £750. Will be interesting to see how much it does go for. I had to laugh and high five myself as a friend of mine gave me one that was in better condition for free last week as he was having a clear out and had no need for it.

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Richard

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1 hour ago, Mexican Gerbil said:

:crazy: crazy people. It's just a rusty old ford 

I thought you would like that that one as it looks incredibly close to one at home. Your home!

Presumably these ones aren't rusty so its why they command such high prices.

1 hour ago, Jersey Stardust said:

The 6 Dial dash was on ebay last week, it was priced £888.00, it received no bids, it has been relisted £750. Will be interesting to see how much it does go for. I had to laugh and high five myself as a friend of mine gave me one that was in better condition for free last week as he was having a clear out and had no need for it.

Happy Days

Richard

Bonus!!

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9 hours ago, Rally Pack 2000 said:

 The owner seems to think that when you spend 40 thousand quid on a motor that he shouldn't have to spend any money on it after that. In his mind he bought a restored classic car so that means no work required. These rich newbies have no idea. 🤣

 

I’m going save that for my signature!

 never a truer word said, that is my day to day life trying to explain that lol 😂 

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The record price for a Mk3 Capri is this Brooklands 2.8 coming in at auction at 54,000 Pounds in March 2016. Another example with less than 1000 miles on the clock, like the RS2000 Custom above would make its auction price unrealistic to compare with regular restored versions

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