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Alessandro

Help!!! for chassis number, VIN, AVO plate

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Hello to all,

I'm looking for information for my Rally Escort RS Mk2 Group 4, which comes from England.
In the car, in addition to the VIN plate, there is a second plate that appears to be the AVO plate.

The original shell had been prepared by Gartrac in 1979/1980.
Built in March 1979 (from chassis number), first registration in March 1980.

The car has been racing since it was new and the V5 already reports the engine number BDG produced by AVJ Developments (AVJxxxxx).

The plate that looks like AVO says:

ALTYF
ATWDxxxx
WHITE

The complete VIN is:

BATA NE L BBATWDxxxx
(English VIN plate, non-German)

I can't understand .. it could be an RS Mk1 shell converted to Mk2, otherwise I won't explain myself .. is it possible?
I would like to understand if the car is an RS and which model ..

Thank you all in advance if you can help me understand ..

Many thanks

Alessandro

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There is no AVO plate on a mk2. AVO plates only feature on mk1 AVO models (Mexico, RS1600, RS2000 etc) built at the AVO factory at Aveley South Ockendon.  I imagine the plate you are referring to is the body plate?

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The letters you have provided from the build plate dont tally with the mk2 data I've found.

However the vin is for a british, halewood, escort, 2 door, march 79. 

PM me a photo of the plates if you can. I my be able to help a bit further 

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Yes, on the Mk2 that I know the plate was on the RS1800, perhaps not all of them.
In fact that's what I don't understand ..
I have the VIN plate on the left, and the second plate on the right.
The initials/letters correspond to an AVO plate!

ALTYF

A = Escort

R = RHD (L=LHD)

T = 2 Door Saloon

Y = RS2000

F = Manual

Before I had an RS2000 Mk2 group 1 built by the Ford racing department, a limited series that was set up in Zakspeed and came out ready for racing. This too had a plate on the right, but was obviously different from the AVO one

Furthermore, is it possible that in 1979 an MK2 with BBAT chassis and NE engine was produced in England? ..Verision "L" is Mk1 Rs1600!!?

Should be BFAT but for an MK1!!

I learned that after 1978 with the change of rules in England shell/reg numbers were recycled (book Graham Robson).

In fact I have a photo of the VIN plate MK2 reg. MTW200P famous Escort Gr.4, that says BATN NE L BFATRP***** which should be a mk 1 converted from the initials, but that I know they no longer produced Mk1 in December 1975 ..

what a mess!!

thanks if you can help me

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were only the Mk2 Rs / Mexico produced in Germany? or all of them? Were they producing at Halewood in 1979?

forgive me if my english is not very good .. 

thank you!

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Rs 2000 and Mexico were all built in Saarloius, Germany as far as I'm aware. 

Other models were built at both halewood and germany. Such as the sport. 

The RS1800 is a bit confusing. You may have an RS1800. Competitive  cars were built using BBAT shells .

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If so, i would be a very happy person !!!!

I have a lot of history on this car, and this would be the best for her ..!

RS1800 😲

I hadn't thought of that .. I'll contact Gartrac, then I'll let you know ..
For now.. thank you so much .. !!
And if anyone has more information I will be happy ..

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ok.. 

Unfortunately the car has been largely rebuilt. If everything were original, as in its time, it would have been better! But that's okay too!

 

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3 hours ago, Mexican Gerbil said:

Rs 2000 and Mexico were all built in Saarloius, Germany as far as I'm aware. 

Other models were built at both halewood and germany. Such as the sport. 

The RS1800 is a bit confusing. You may have an RS1800. Competitive  cars were built using BBAT shells .

NE is a Pinto engine code on the chassis plate.

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10 hours ago, Vista said:

NE is a Pinto engine code on the chassis plate.

Yes, NE is pinto. however there are "strange" cases. Some road Rs1800s have LE because they started from a Mexico body.

Some cars such as the MTW200P Escort Mk2, cars for race, had indicated the NE engine but had a BDA..

I try to ask Gartrac if they have information ..
Thank you!

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