BIG G Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 Have modified old Fords gone out of fashion nowadays as I see lots more standard cars in the scene and have had people pass comments like "that isn't a genuine rs is it, why would you do that to a genuine one" etc etc maybe I've been out of touch for a while but I'm amazed it's going this way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vista Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 I don't think so, just people being more vocal about standard cars since the prices went through the roof. I can't say either of my Fords would excite me as much if they were standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG G Posted February 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 A standard mk2 escort Rs2000 for instance would not pull the burberry jacket from a chavs back and handles like the QE2 and like you Scott just don't cut it with me either 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich T Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 I think there are more purists out there now as these cars get rarer. Im in the camp of, its your car so do what you want to it. That being sead, if i was lucky enough to own a genuine RS etc id keep it pretty close to original. Or at least have mods that can be reversed. Ive made the cardinal sin and converted mine from left to right hand drive. Haters will be haters lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltamal Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 Ive got all the parts that have been modified/removed from my mk3 Cortina, when new it was a 1.3 with 4 speed box and wallowing suspension, it is now a tweaked 2.9 v6 on throttle bodys with 190 brake at the wheels, 5 speed box, power steering and sorted suspension, so it could be returned to factory but why would you? if it had been left as standard and not acquired by me 20 years ago it would be long gone as it was destined to be a chicken shed! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pack 2000 Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Rich T said: Haters will be haters lol But lllllovers will be lovers 🧡 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooligan Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 I always make a car how I want it to be seeing as I will be driving it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donka Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 Makes me laugh as back in the day people modified them as much as they could, if it was a standard they fitted all the custom parts, plenty parts in those day as they were getting written off every weekend, cut the door cards, big speakers, stereo, lowered, sunroof, 40s, airfilter and so on I am building mine the way I want it but as stated all the original parts are still there, ie struts instead of coil overs, English instead of atlas and so on She was originally black but now yellow as that’s the colour I always wanted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theduck Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 I think there have always been those that preferred originality over modified, but as the cars get older and more "collectable" there will be more people that are vocal about their dislike for modifying. That is unless the modifications fit a particular "approved" 🙄 route. My father inlaw has a pre-war austin 7 rp. People are furious if you modify one, even using an otherwise scrap car for a build that isnt back to original, unless you build a "special" then they love it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caprimk1v4 Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 It's a personal choice at the end of the day, the same as your own home, you furnish & decorate it as you please, I would never knock anyone for modifying their car, be it Ford or anything else, their car, their money, their choice. For me personally, it is standard for me, I don't mind period accessories, my first Escort Mexico MK2, came with a 2.0 Pinto in it, but also the very well worn original 1600 Pinto was with the car, so that got a rebuild, and put back in the car, it also did not have rubber over riders, but as they where available as a factory and or dealer fitment, I had those on it as well, again it is all down to what the owner likes, but I would guess most valuations are based on standard car specifications rather than modified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pack 2000 Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 From my overview from a distance there seems to be more heavily modified cars here than those kept original. I would go as far to say you would be lucky if 10% of forum members cars are totally original spec. While the heavy modifiers outweigh the concors originals those in between with mild modifications far out number the other two groups combined. If you like you could even break down that group even further to those that modify with slight performance enhancements and then those that corrective modify. The latter is the group I belong too where I try to keep things as original as possible but sometimes certain things Ford just did it wrong or poor materials or design that are changed. Examples being horrible Australian wheels and mirrors and removal of local emission devices that rob performance. Also things that may be standard on Euro cars like radius arms that are desperately needed on bigger engined models. So too in the UK virtually everyone these days fits the strengthened strut top places. I normally refer to these kind of modifications as sympathetic restorations. How many Mexicos still have their 1600 Pintos installed? So while the cars have gained classic status and their values have increased people may be more likely to keep original colours but there is no less the modification scene today than in the early eighties. If anything its even greater as back then people were limited to modifying the engines that were available in the cars from the factory but now many are ditching the Kents and Pintos for more modern Ztecs and others mated with Mazda gearboxes and the like. So the mod scene has just evolved but I think its as big as ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vista Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 Mazda gearboxes?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeb43 Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 30 minutes ago, Vista said: Mazda gearboxes?? need that to bolt a duratec to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vista Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 hour ago, eeb43 said: need that to bolt a duratec to I don't want to put a Duratec in it either. I have a healthy 160+ bhp at the wheels from my pinto. It'll do nicely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeb43 Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 48 minutes ago, Vista said: I don't want to put a Duratec in it either. I have a healthy 160+ bhp at the wheels from my pinto. It'll do nicely. 160bhp from a tuned lump of pig iron or 270 from a MODERN all aluminium engine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colr6 Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 I’ve just googled 270bhp duratec and what came up was a mountune 2ltr @ 19k. Think I just might stick with my couple a grand red top @ 240 still going after 7 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vista Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 38 minutes ago, eeb43 said: 160bhp from a tuned lump of pig iron or 270 from a MODERN all aluminium engine! It isn't 160 bhp, it's 160 at the wheels. = about 190 at the flywheel. More than enough in a mk1 and it still looks like an RS2000 when the bonnet is lifted. And is Col says, a Duratec with that output is big money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caprimk1v4 Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 I am with Vista on the Pinto, I have similar numbers to Vista from my standard 1600 GT Pinto and that's 106 BHP on the dyno set up, and all its had is a clean up of the ports in the head and blend the port throats a bit, a Piper BP 255 "Hi Torque" cam and the dyno man tickled up the main jets in the carb. That feels very nippy on the road, hope Vista does not mind my figures saying they are similar to his, same numbers, different order (ha-ha), but at less than a mile in the last 3 years, driving my C Max feels fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theduck Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 11 hours ago, colr6 said: I’ve just googled 270bhp duratec and what came up was a mountune 2ltr @ 19k. Think I just might stick with my couple a grand red top @ 240 still going after 7 years 😲My pinto has more power than that and costs a hell of a lot less to build too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWL81P Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 13 hours ago, Vista said: I don't want to put a Duratec in it either. I have a healthy 160+ bhp at the wheels from my pinto. It'll do nicely. yep i'm with you, no modern engines for me. my pintos a 2.1 that will have forged pistons, i've already got a HPE full race top end, weber 48s, tony law manifold, cossie conrods and a quaife straight cut box. so should be similar power to vistas and still sound and drive like an escort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWL81P Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 16 minutes ago, theduck said: 😲My pinto has more power than that and costs a hell of a lot less to build too! more power than 270? is it turbod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vista Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 As above, 270bhp Pinto? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeb43 Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 12 hours ago, colr6 said: I’ve just googled 270bhp duratec and what came up was a mountune 2ltr @ 19k. Think I just might stick with my couple a grand red top @ 240 still going after 7 years 270 is as it comes out 2.5l standard engine with after market ignition and injection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pack 2000 Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 12 hours ago, eeb43 said: 160bhp from a tuned lump of pig iron or 270 from a MODERN all aluminium engine! Do you have to scrape the Pepsi logos off later or do they burn off in the forging process? 😛 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeb43 Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 try looking for ford ranger track car 2.5l duratec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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