Rally Pack 2000 Posted October 8, 2021 Report Posted October 8, 2021 As the title suggests I was after a AP Racing Clutch Kit for the Mk2 Escort. The kit used to be called the CP2000-5 but it appears Burtons no longer sells them or has been discontinued. Anyone know a possible source instead? Thanks
BaileyMex Posted October 8, 2021 Report Posted October 8, 2021 Not sure on the part numbers, but have you had one before? I had one in the Mex years ago and found mine was very heavy compared to a standard clutch
Rally Pack 2000 Posted October 8, 2021 Author Report Posted October 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, BaileyMex said: Not sure on the part numbers, but have you had one before? I had one in the Mex years ago and found mine was very heavy compared to a standard clutch They have their competition version but the CP2000-5 is just meant to be a HD road kit. I haven't used one of theirs before. My reasoning for wanting that one is just that they are a reputable brand as most on offer I havent even heard of before. This hopefully will be the last clutch change in my lifetime so If I go for something of exceptional quality then it should see the car till my demise. Not after anything race just for a standard car.
BaileyMex Posted October 8, 2021 Report Posted October 8, 2021 Ah cool, the AP stuff was good, I cant remember which model I had as it was years ago, but it was fine for the odd launch down the strip at Santa Pod, but in traffic it became hard work Good luck with the research 1
Rally Pack 2000 Posted October 8, 2021 Author Report Posted October 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, BaileyMex said: Ah cool, the AP stuff was good, I cant remember which model I had as it was years ago, but it was fine for the odd launch down the strip at Santa Pod, but in traffic it became hard work Good luck with the research Thanks. Im open to suggestions if there are other reputable brands out there. You have me thinking now was this AP HD kit too hard like the one you had.
BaileyMex Posted October 8, 2021 Report Posted October 8, 2021 Don't know mate, if it is just for road use and not to be used in anger, I'm sure others can chip in with experience or thoughts. 1
Rally Pack 2000 Posted October 8, 2021 Author Report Posted October 8, 2021 15 minutes ago, BaileyMex said: Don't know mate, if it is just for road use and not to be used in anger, I'm sure others can chip in with experience or thoughts. Was yours a competition one if you can remember?
BaileyMex Posted October 8, 2021 Report Posted October 8, 2021 37 minutes ago, Rally Pack 2000 said: Was yours a competition one if you can remember? Pass, probably 10 years ago now.
Rally Pack 2000 Posted October 8, 2021 Author Report Posted October 8, 2021 1 minute ago, BaileyMex said: Pass, probably 10 years ago now. Fair enough. Everyone in the UK seems keen on the Helix brand but I havent heard of them before.
BaileyMex Posted October 8, 2021 Report Posted October 8, 2021 Just now, Rally Pack 2000 said: Fair enough. Everyone in the UK seems keen on the Helix brand but I havent heard of them before. Heard of, not used sorry.
Miniliteman Posted October 8, 2021 Report Posted October 8, 2021 According to an insider over here AP has concentrated on race/rally clutches since the market for clutches for road cars has been swamped by Chinese crap via the interweb. Even single cluch plates and/or pressure plates for road cars are nla. Helix is good as is Tilton. 1
Rally Pack 2000 Posted October 8, 2021 Author Report Posted October 8, 2021 This company claims to get them on request but I suspect they wont be able too and you will have trouble getting your money back. Has anyone dealt with them? Someone called Atomic. https://www.atomic-shop.eu/part/13801-CP2000-5/
Rally Pack 2000 Posted October 8, 2021 Author Report Posted October 8, 2021 Strangely you can still get the AP Clutch Plate on its own but they dont seem to offer a cover plate? Do people use HD clutch plates with standard cover plates or something? Has anyone ever mixed and matched Cover and Drive plates before? I seem to remember decades ago guys doing stuff like that putting in HD clutch plates but with standard cover plates to reduce the harshness or something?
Miniliteman Posted October 8, 2021 Report Posted October 8, 2021 That atomic shop is in Germany (at the Nurburgring); never heard of them. You could email them asking if they can order it and if yes how long delivery is. But I doubt they really can get it. Burton's webshop is always very up to date and if they say it is nla then it probably is. 1
Rally Pack 2000 Posted October 9, 2021 Author Report Posted October 9, 2021 Now this is confusing! While another seller says .... I wonder which is correct?
Miniliteman Posted October 9, 2021 Report Posted October 9, 2021 Both! Top one is Burton they have no stock left, bottom ones is Motorsport Tools think they still have some stock left.
Miniliteman Posted October 9, 2021 Report Posted October 9, 2021 From the AP Racing website: IMPORTANT NOTE: AP Racing is currently reviewing its range of Special Tuning Clutches and Formula Clutch Kit products. Information of these product ranges has been removed from the website, for the time being. Please contact AP Racing Technical Department for more details.
katana Posted October 9, 2021 Report Posted October 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Miniliteman said: Both! Top one is Burton they have no stock left, bottom ones is Motorsport Tools think they still have some stock left. I think the confusion was caused by the 'use' description against the plate part number - they are opposite between suppliers! 1
Rally Pack 2000 Posted October 9, 2021 Author Report Posted October 9, 2021 2 hours ago, katana said: I think the confusion was caused by the 'use' description against the plate part number - they are opposite between suppliers! Yep that's the one! I suspect Motorsport Tools may be the correct one though and Burtons are in error? Either way the Pressure/Cover plate that AP used to make to go with both of these, the CP2511-1 is discontinued. Can you use standard Pressure/Cover Plates with HD Drive plates?
Miniliteman Posted October 9, 2021 Report Posted October 9, 2021 In the old AP catalogue it is stated that you must now mix those AP Formula / HD parts with std items. Also the difference between the CP5351-1 and the CP5352-5 is that the 51-1 is steel-backed and the 52-5 is not. The 51-1 islisted as for the Pinto engine, the 52-5 for the RS1800. Torque capacity is the same for both. 1
Rally Pack 2000 Posted October 9, 2021 Author Report Posted October 9, 2021 11 minutes ago, Miniliteman said: In the old AP catalogue it is stated that you must now mix those AP Formula / HD parts with std items. Also the difference between the CP5351-1 and the CP5352-5 is that the 51-1 is steel-backed and the 52-5 is not. The 51-1 islisted as for the Pinto engine, the 52-5 for the RS1800. Torque capacity is the same for both. I love how they change their minds when it suits them! I only found a quite old catalogue from 2013 or something and this is a copy of the exert. LOL
Rally Pack 2000 Posted October 9, 2021 Author Report Posted October 9, 2021 15 minutes ago, Miniliteman said: Typo in my post ... now -> not ... Ahhh then you saw the same thing I did. Its odd that they dont sell cover plates yet they also say you cant use standard ones with their drive plates which they do sell? Hmmmm
Miniliteman Posted October 9, 2021 Report Posted October 9, 2021 Sod AP ... just get a Helix HD kit from Burton or one with a paddle plate (sprung centre) if you got a lot of bhp / torques.
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