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I was driving along the other day in the recently acquired Mk2 Focus when I was buzzed by a group of hatch versions all with fancy wheels and spoilers some early some later models all driving in convoy. I knew they were popular in the UK as every day road cars like Fords have always been but it suddenly struck me that they seem to have a cult status akin to Escorts and other OSF. So are Focus' really a cult thing there? They even seem to have their own clubs and sites. I remember someone posting a funny photo of a whole carpark of orange ones but I just thought that in terms of large sales not that sporting fraternity had embraced them? Have they elevated too fun sporting cars over and above their road car status that I thought they had until recently?

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47 minutes ago, Rally Pack 2000 said:

I was driving along the other day in the recently acquired Mk2 Focus when I was buzzed by a group of hatch versions all with fancy wheels and spoilers some early some later models all driving in convoy. I knew they were popular in the UK as every day road cars like Fords have always been but it suddenly struck me that they seem to have a cult status akin to Escorts and other OSF. So are Focus' really a cult thing there? They even seem to have their own clubs and sites. I remember someone posting a funny photo of a whole carpark of orange ones but I just thought that in terms of large sales not that sporting fraternity had embraced them? Have they elevated too fun sporting cars over and above their road car status that I thought they had until recently?

Massive following of the Ford Focus in the Uk and also fairly big in the U.S.

Shows like Ford Fair are now dominated by these, along with Fiesta ST's, as I think its more affordable for the younger petrol heads.

Friend of mine paid £32k for a new Mk3 Focus RS when they first came out and has spent over £18k on modifications, although the car externally still looks pretty much standard.  Having been in it as a passenger, it is VERY impressive.

Have a look at some of the videos and builds on Youtube by BD Performance, as they do some big power mods.

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5 minutes ago, DT36 said:

Massive following of the Ford Focus in the Uk and also fairly big in the U.S.

Shows like Ford Fair are now dominated by these, along with Fiesta ST's, as I think its more affordable for the younger petrol heads.

Friend of mine paid £32k for a new Mk3 Focus RS when they first came out and has spent over £18k on modifications, although the car externally still looks pretty much standard.  Having been in it as a passenger, it is VERY impressive.

Have a look at some of the videos and builds on Youtube by BD Performance, as they do some big power mods.

We didn't get any of the RS models till the last one so maybe its been a delayed reaction for the younger petrol heads here possibly?

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As said, there are plenty of clubs and followers over here for the Focus. I had a few as company cars when I worked for Ford when they first came out circa 1999. and later ones too.

Decent cars and very popular, and I guess it's just a generation thing, we all hankered for RS2000's, Mexico's and Twin Cams as kids, and the younger 'petrol heads' probably feel the same about the Focus ST's etc. horses for coursed really.

I've driven an ST & RS and yes they are quick cars, do I want to own one? Not really, but that's just me.

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I have a 2004 2 door ST170.

Long story for another day , as to how and why I brought it.

Nice car handles very well and goes well.

Not as quick as an RS.

The RS is a good match for my Holden SS Ute.

I have had a few tear ups with focus RS, they can't get away, and I can't catch them.

On paper you can see why 😜

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On 20/01/2022 at 22:01, BaileyMex said:

As said, there are plenty of clubs and followers over here for the Focus. I had a few as company cars when I worked for Ford when they first came out circa 1999. and later ones too.

Decent cars and very popular, and I guess it's just a generation thing, we all hankered for RS2000's, Mexico's and Twin Cams as kids, and the younger 'petrol heads' probably feel the same about the Focus ST's etc. horses for coursed really.

I've driven an ST & RS and yes they are quick cars, do I want to own one? Not really, but that's just me.

 

4 hours ago, Johnny Boy said:

I have a 2004 2 door ST170.

Long story for another day , as to how and why I brought it.

Nice car handles very well and goes well.

Not as quick as an RS.

The RS is a good match for my Holden SS Ute.

I have had a few tear ups with focus RS, they can't get away, and I can't catch them.

On paper you can see why 😜

We got the ST model which was sort of marketed to the sporting crowd but nothing like the whole RS market. Where does the ST fit in the scheme of things? Why didnt they get the RS tag? I always wonder about that.

1 hour ago, Kenworth W900 said:

The baffling thing about Ford Fiesta and Focus owners is the desire not to stand out from the crowd

I've seen parades of General Lee replicas with more variation

Yes when you guys post show images they all like to fill whole fields with the same car and colour. Im totally baffled by that one. The boy racers always added things to their common cars to make them stand out from the crown and be different?  It has to be something to do with the conformity and mindset of the social media generation surely?

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ST170, was the first Focus performance variant. Then the RS came along as a high performance version

The RS originally used the same engine , but turbo charged, then they went to the Volvo 5 cylinder engine.

Then to the 2.3 Mustang engine.

That's all I know, I'm not a Focus guru 🤠

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1 hour ago, Johnny Boy said:

ST170, was the first Focus performance variant. Then the RS came along as a high performance version

The RS originally used the same engine , but turbo charged, then they went to the Volvo 5 cylinder engine.

Then to the 2.3 Mustang engine.

That's all I know, I'm not a Focus guru 🤠

Lot of lads are now rebuilding their 2.3 engines into a modded 2.0 block.  Not sure on the whys and wherefores, but it's giving them a stronger engine for more power.

Friend of mine paid £32k for his MK3 RS and is probably on his 3rd modded engine now, with about another £20k out of his pocket.  Car is in excess of 500 bhp and his missus uses it for the occasional school run 😂

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I have a ST225 mk2 and to be honest I am starting to hate the thing, If you google the faults you'll find with these cars I've had them all in the frustrating six months of ownership. It drives really nice when it behaves itself but crap on the twisty's. The 5 pot sounds nice but fook me it likes a drink. 

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1 minute ago, BIG G said:

I have a ST225 mk2 and to be honest I am starting to hate the thing, If you google the faults you'll find with these cars I've had them all in the frustrating six months of ownership. It drives really nice when it behaves itself but crap on the twisty's. The 5 pot sounds nice but fook me it likes a drink. 

You forgot to add how easy it goes from Jeckyll to Hyde :-)

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45 minutes ago, DT36 said:

You forgot to add how easy it goes from Jeckyll to Hyde :-)

It is a bit like that, but every time I boot it I'm waiting for the next fault...😁

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9 hours ago, Rally Pack 2000 said:

Yes when you guys post show images they all like to fill whole fields with the same car and colour. Im totally baffled by that one. The boy racers always added things to their common cars to make them stand out from the crown and be different?  It has to be something to do with the conformity and mindset of the social media generation surely?

Regarding the latter point - for the UK in particular - Insurance has a lot to do with it! We are all used to loaded insurance for modded engines etc. but insurance is soooooo expensive for kids, even on base bog std. cars, nothing gets changed till they get some no claims and premiums start to fall but even then its not unusual to have a £1k ins. premium on a £2-3k car or worse! What are ins. costs like in Aus. for Yoofs?

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5 hours ago, katana said:

Regarding the latter point - for the UK in particular - Insurance has a lot to do with it! We are all used to loaded insurance for modded engines etc. but insurance is soooooo expensive for kids, even on base bog std. cars, nothing gets changed till they get some no claims and premiums start to fall but even then its not unusual to have a £1k ins. premium on a £2-3k car or worse! What are ins. costs like in Aus. for Yoofs?

While its naturally higher for younger people I think our insurance rates across the board are far lower than yours. Some of the quotes I read on here from you guys are breathtaking. This charging half the cars value for a years insurance is absurd. I even saw a Top Gear episode where they pretended to be young people and had to select cars for the challenge accordingly. Its almost like a huge graft the premiums they seem to charge there, I have even mentioned it to people here when they complain how their premiums have gone up I tell them of the ridiculous prices they charge there. Just got my insurance renewal for RP2000 and its outrageously risen by at least 10% to a hundred and fifty quid equivalent.

Most younger ones go for the policy we call 3rd Party Fire and Theft, do you have that one there? Its costs largely revolves around the cars value so if you drive something older which alot of younger kids do then its proportionally cheaper. But the 3rd party bit covers the damage to the other persons car but not the repairs of your own. However if its nicked or catches fire its not your fault so you get the cars value. There is just incentive there to be more careful not to damage your own car doing silly things cause the insurance company wont pay to fix it.

*Note - Dont get the wrong impression though, Insurance seems to be the only car related thing we pay less than you guys do! LOL

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