Guest TheXEgrowler Posted September 30, 2006 Report Posted September 30, 2006 Put a Vauxhall in my Ford ?? I don't care how poweful they are, put a penny in the swear jar you bad man You're quite right, vauxhall drivers do drink horlicks and read broadsheet newspapers, you're to be commended for admitting it. Now, my pinto may not have 200bhp, (though it aint far off and already outputs more than an XE in stock trim) but it's all OLD SKOOL, no twin cam turbo charge ecu new fangled nonsense for me
over_head_cam Posted September 30, 2006 Report Posted September 30, 2006 Putting non Ford engines into old skool fords is more oldskool than some of the cars! I've seen Daimler V8's, Jag 6's and plenty of Fiat twin cams. There's a fella on the site with an Alfa V6 too. Not forgetting the ubiquitous Rover V8 of course. I admire a dedication to Ford purity and I admire the non-confomist approach too
marky4 Posted September 30, 2006 Report Posted September 30, 2006 if i blew the engine up in my rs i would deffo consider an EX as a replacement
Mk 1 Mark Posted October 1, 2006 Report Posted October 1, 2006 if i blew the engine up in my rs i would deffo consider an EX as a replacement Ex is that a fast women
emu Posted October 1, 2006 Report Posted October 1, 2006 I really dont get why some people hate the thought of having another manufacturers engine in their car. At the end of the day, be it a x-flow, XE or fiat twincam, theyre all just four pistons bouncing up and down. If its more cost effective to drop in a standard XE/fiat twink/toyota lump than a tuned pinto/crossflow then surely it makes sense? Fair play to the people who do keep a ford engine, but its good to see people using different approaches to gain a similar end result. I suppose its like mechanical evolution. Im running a pinto before anyone asks and am more than happy to keep it( for now ). But having been in enough quick cavaliers I can fully understand why someone might choose an XE. The internal combustion engine wasnt invented by ford, so should we all be pushing our cars? Richard
bashmk1 Posted October 1, 2006 Report Posted October 1, 2006 i think youve hit the nail straight on the head there richard.
Morley Posted October 2, 2006 Report Posted October 2, 2006 I've had a 175bhp Pinto and then my XE XE wins hands down. It may not have the low down snort of a Pinto, but its a wicked engine, doesn't matter what name is on the rocker cover. Infact, i quite enjoy having a Vauxhall engine in a Ford, purely for the fact that it puts some peoples noses out of joint. Its an engine for pitys sake, get over it! Shut the bonnet and no one will ever know
Admin Vista Posted October 2, 2006 Admin Report Posted October 2, 2006 I've had a 175bhp Pinto and then my XEXE wins hands down. It may not have the low down snort of a Pinto, but its a wicked engine, doesn't matter what name is on the rocker cover. Infact, i quite enjoy having a Vauxhall engine in a Ford, purely for the fact that it puts some peoples noses out of joint. Its an engine for pitys sake, get over it! Shut the bonnet and no one will ever know Pah, turncoat, retro vauxhall In truth I'd quite happily have a more tractable modern engine and if I owned an Escort I'd built to be like that then that is certainly the way I'd go. But my current car being a geuine RS I reckoned dropping in a non original engine would affect its value, so I've stuck with the pinto and whilst it's been pricey getting good power out of it it's been worth it in the end.
tim Posted October 2, 2006 Report Posted October 2, 2006 my shell is a mk2 rs2000 and id very easly xe the bugger
RUSTYPUP Posted October 3, 2006 Report Posted October 3, 2006 Cool! Is that an articulated lawn mower? Twin engine?
Morley Posted October 3, 2006 Report Posted October 3, 2006 I've had a 175bhp Pinto and then my XEXE wins hands down. It may not have the low down snort of a Pinto, but its a wicked engine, doesn't matter what name is on the rocker cover. Infact, i quite enjoy having a Vauxhall engine in a Ford, purely for the fact that it puts some peoples noses out of joint. Its an engine for pitys sake, get over it! Shut the bonnet and no one will ever know Pah, turncoat, retro vauxhall In truth I'd quite happily have a more tractable modern engine and if I owned an Escort I'd built to be like that then that is certainly the way I'd go. But my current car being a geuine RS I reckoned dropping in a non original engine would affect its value, so I've stuck with the pinto and whilst it's been pricey getting good power out of it it's been worth it in the end. Oh i agree, i am soon to be building up my Mk1 RS2000 and i wouldn't dream of putting a Vauxhall in it. Maybe thats because Mk1 RS's are more sought after than the mk2 variants?! But base model shells, vans, estates etc are all fair game in my eyes. Its a good modernish 16 valve engine and despite where it came from it can produce 180bhp without breaking sweat.
Johnson Posted October 3, 2006 Report Posted October 3, 2006 for me the xe has so much potential. National hotrods etc.... i like to see a creative choice of engine. like the nissan 200sx powered anglia im sure there was a cortina about with a skyline engine. i remember another anglia at the ace with a montego turbo lump in it??? when i get bored of the crossflow in the fiesta. i will probably go H22 v-tec. its cheap reliable and has loads of seriouse tuning potential, just like the xe. However i still have mucho respect for wild pintos and screaming xflows
RChambers Posted October 3, 2006 Report Posted October 3, 2006 I don't think it matters what make engine you put in as changing to any engine (ford or not) will stop it being original anyway. I would still choose a zetec or better still a duratec over an XE any day though. The main thing is how old are most XE's and they are only found in the sports (read thrashed) vauxpoos so most are knackered and need of a rebuild. Zetecs and duratecs are found in all modern Fords, newer engine and a lot more common (no rebuild needed). Standard zetec will make slightly less than standard XE due to more mellow cams but both have the same potential. Duratec will blow XE out of the water though but as its new installation costs are highish for the moment. Of course there is always the ST170 zetec engine. 170bhp stock and bike throttle bodies bolt straight on for an nice comfortable 200bhp
Jimsiss Posted October 3, 2006 Report Posted October 3, 2006 I do have to say that I don't like XE engines in fords but each to their own, now a toyota 4AGE engine on the other hand....
Hilux Posted October 3, 2006 Report Posted October 3, 2006 personally i would'nt cut up a rare model (mk1 RS/mex or mk2 harrier) to stick a different engine in, but as ben says anything else is just fair game, my engine is a relative of the XE, vauxhall, holden, chevrolet they are all part of the general motors group.
sambo Posted October 3, 2006 Author Report Posted October 3, 2006 All i'm trying to do is get the most BHP / £££ ratio. As is everyone. Vauxhall XE's are a very good option, i like the idea of a duratec but the conversion costs are expensive. 200 BHP pinto's are ridiculously pricey too (although seriously cool). I think the XE is the best option for me. Naturally aspirated anyway......... mmmmmm........YB turbo......
faster Posted October 3, 2006 Report Posted October 3, 2006 My mate builds race engines, has done for 30 years. He really rates the XE but not the Zetec. I cant remember the reasons, but he says pound for pound he could get more power from an XE than he could a Zetec. If you want a cheap and easy 200bhp, its got to be the Cosworth turbo engine though.
Transit RS Posted October 3, 2006 Report Posted October 3, 2006 If you want a cheap and easy 200bhp, its got to be the Cosworth turbo engine though. cheap and cosworth turbo in the same sentance
tim Posted October 3, 2006 Report Posted October 3, 2006 if xe didnt have a vauxhall badge on the cam cover then i bet there wouldnt b this fuss what about 1 of these insted
Transit RS Posted October 3, 2006 Report Posted October 3, 2006 what about 1 of these instedthey go the wrong way round i think
perry Posted October 3, 2006 Report Posted October 3, 2006 Putting non Ford engines into old skool fords is more oldskool than some of the cars! I've seen Daimler V8's, Jag 6's and plenty of Fiat twin cams. There's a fella on the site with an Alfa V6 too. Not forgetting the ubiquitous Rover V8 of course. I admire a dedication to Ford purity and I admire the non-confomist approach too im not into the xe , i dont like the cam cover , im being honest , it looks gay im starting to consider the pinto probably because theres a 2.1 sat in james kit car and theres loads lying around the scrappy , i cant see too much difference in weight between that and a xflow , youve just gotta hold it with 2 hands the scrappy also has a few mx5s in stock , hmmmmmm but i think when the time comes to put some large capacity motorvation inbetween the innerwings ill be buying my fuel from the chippy
tim Posted October 3, 2006 Report Posted October 3, 2006 what about 1 of these instedthey go the wrong way round i think nar there rwd
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