Madeleine McCann

[Mk2Jo]

I don't really know if this is appropriate to put in here so I will go with what you say and delete it if necessary but we have been discussing this at work and I really don't want to think that the McCann's are responsible for the disappearance of their own daughter

 

But ..... it is looking increasingly condemning for them

 

What are your views?? Do you think that the Portugese police could have done more at the beginning??

 

I would like to think that the McCann's are innocent but the world is a very strange place and anything could be possible.

[NHR115]

They have to have had some contact with the child ,post mortem, as there is no way the dogs would have been able to have picked up the scent of death on the mother's bible. There is far too much evidence against the parents to say they have been set up. (just a forensics view i'm afraid)

 

I dont however believe that the parents intentionally killed the little girl and there has been speculation over the mother over sedating her resulting in her death. I think the parents have come back to the apartment and found their daughter and in a moment of blind panic they've discarded of the body. By the time this had all happened they were in way too deep.

 

I know its hard for any parent to believe another parent could kill their own flesh and blood but it has been done on many occassions and will probably continue to happen.

 

The evidence clearly speaks for itself and no judiciary system would formally arrest someone if they did not have enough evidence to substantiate the claim. Everyone leaves a piece of themselves behind and i believe there is no smoke without fire. Just my views though.

[Mk2Jo]

They have to have had some contact with the child ,post mortem, as there is no way the dogs would have been able to have picked up the scent of death on the mother's bible. .

 

Could this be from any person though (the smell of death) as she is a doctor I think and must have prayed for her patients or pronounced some of them dead and she always seems to be holding the bible or is the smell specific to a person and not just deceased people in general?

[Vista]

I think it's counter productive to speculate, but personally I don't believe they had anything to do with it.

 

The Portuguese press is making a big issue of it because nationally they see the whole sorry mess being aired across the worlds TV stations and fear the repercussions for their tourist industry.

 

Meanwhile from what I understand and have read, the Portuguese police investigation was and is laughable, Inspector Gadget / Clueso would probably have made a better job of it. The Crime scene cross contamination that seems to have gone on would have spread her DNA everywhere, christ the DNA supposedly found in the car they hired post her going missing could have come from one of her toys her mother was carrying around as a memento. I suspect the Portuguese Police are desperate to pin it on anyone they can, and the easiest targets are the parents.

[johnny_h]

Don't be afraid to post it here. Sooner or later nobody will say anything for fear of being un politically correct. If they did cover up an accidental manslaughter they will be hated.

[Mk2Jo]

It is just a very sensitive subject and I don't want to offend anyone by giving my own personal views on it but we are all discussing it in our daily lives and I just wondered what other people's take was on all of it

[NHR115]

They have to have had some contact with the child ,post mortem, as there is no way the dogs would have been able to have picked up the scent of death on the mother's bible. .

 

Could this be from any person though (the smell of death) as she is a doctor I think and must have prayed for her patients or pronounced some of them dead and she always seems to be holding the bible or is the smell specific to a person and not just deceased people in general?

 

I'm not quite sure how the dogs pick up the 'scent of death' (never taught about that in my degree) so cant say much about it i'm afraid.

 

As for the DNA which was found in the car, its not clear where the DNA has come from i.e. was it salivary DNA or was it DNA from the child's blood?

 

Maybe they are the easiest targets but all these revelations about the DNA which was found has occurred as soon as the British police got involved. I agree with you regarding the way the Portugese carried out proceedings - it is an absolute disgrace.

 

What do you think of the clump of the girls hair which was found in the hire car?

[Vista]

What do you think of the clump of the girls hair which was found in the hire car?

 

There's clumps of hair attached to my partners clothes all the time, jackets or jumpers she hasn't worn for weeks / months. I pick it up, put it down in the car, hey presto there's DNA evidence that says she was in it.

 

DNA isn't the be all and end all, agreed it's a great investigative tool if crime scenes are properly preserved and investigated by people who know how to get the best from it. But if done badly (as it was) it's next to useless

[NHR115]

I must just be biased i guess - having a degree in forensics makes me believe the evidence and only the evidence

[Trevmk3]

the McCanns only hired the car 3 weeks after the kid went missing, i know its a long shot but the previous people to hire that car could of taken her, do you think that has been taken into account about the DNA found in it?

[NHR115]

You would like to have though that the police would've checked up on the people who previously hired the car but going by the Portugese Investigation it may well have slipped through the net.

[ann_capri]

being a mum myself, and many of my mates are talking about it and none of us realy know what to say as on one hand we think they didn't do it but on the other we cant understand why they left the children on there own in the room and went for a meal , we have all agreed that if we was on holiday there is no way we would of gone a few yards down the road for a meal and left our kids asleep on there own in the first place , i know they kept popping back to check on them but i myself would not of left them there in the fist place , and its like my mate said if they did do it then why go to all the trouble of setting up the web site and doing a missing person thing , but like i said to my mate what about the soham girls where the caretaker was helping the police and then it turned out it was him who done it .

 

so my views are very on this but i do think the portugese police should have done more at the start like getting dogs in sooner

[Trevmk3]

like Ann said, it always seems to be the people in the background on the telly that did it

[NHR115]

I feel sorry for the twins though - being so young and caught up in something like this, its bound to be affecting them. Poor wee lambs

[ann_capri]

I feel sorry for the twins though - being so young and caught up in something like this, its bound to be affecting them. Poor wee lambs

 

yes i must agree there it must be hard for them to understand whats going on

[MK2Ed]

I would like to think that they didn't do it...

[Mr Sam]

i live just down the road from them

 

Rothley has been packed with media and journolist vans since they got back every news bullitin 'the mcCans have not left the house' 'the mcCans have taken the twins to the park'

 

FFS get a grip leave them alone there normal people (id like to think) and there not in the big brother house!!! and we dont need/want to know what there upto 24 hours a day 7 days a week

 

yes police over there should of done more at the time but why was she ever left alone in the first place........

 

personally its gone way OTT and im sick of hearing about the whole damn thing cant open the local rag on turn on local radio without reading/hearing about it.....

 

 

 

 

 

and there still no closer to finding her

[Mrs O/H/C]

WHERE DO I BEGIN...... IM SO SO SAD ABOUT WHAT THE POSSIBLE OUT COME OF THIS WILL BE , READING ALL THESE POSTS HAVE MADE ME SHIVER!! AS A MUM OF FOUR CHILDREN I CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY THEY LEFT THE CHILDREN ALONE EITHER LIKE ANN. ITS A VERY SENSITIVE SUBJECT JO.. BUT ITS REAL LIFE SO IT HAS TO BE SPOKEN ABOUT. I SO HOPE THAT THE PARENTS ARE NOT TO BLAME AS I WILL LOSE ALL FAITH IN MANKIND!! AS FOR THE D.N.A ...IT WILL BE ON ALL BELONGINGS OF THE WHOLE FAMILY AND I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY IT WAS FOUND IN THE HIRE CAR. THE POLICE..I FEEL HAVE NOT BEEN THOROUGH ENOUGH AND NOW JUST FEEL THAT THEY HAVE TO BLAME ANYONE TO BASICALLY GET RID OF THE ATTENTION OF THIS CASE. MORE IMPORTANTLY I HOPE MADELINE IS FOUND SAFE AND WELL..NO MATTER WHO IS TO BLAME !!

[ann_capri]

WHERE DO I BEGIN...... IM SO SO SAD ABOUT WHAT THE POSSIBLE OUT COME OF THIS WILL BE , READING ALL THESE POSTS HAVE MADE ME SHIVER!! AS A MUM OF FOUR CHILDREN I CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY THEY LEFT THE CHILDREN ALONE EITHER LIKE ANN. ITS A VERY SENSITIVE SUBJECT JO.. BUT ITS REAL LIFE SO IT HAS TO BE SPOKEN ABOUT. I SO HOPE THAT THE PARENTS ARE NOT TO BLAME AS I WILL LOSE ALL FAITH IN MANKIND!! AS FOR THE D.N.A ...IT WILL BE ON ALL BELONGINGS OF THE WHOLE FAMILY AND I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY IT WAS FOUND IN THE HIRE CAR. THE POLICE..I FEEL HAVE NOT BEEN THOROUGH ENOUGH AND NOW JUST FEEL THAT THEY HAVE TO BLAME ANYONE TO BASICALLY GET RID OF THE ATTENTION OF THIS CASE. MORE IMPORTANTLY I HOPE MADELINE IS FOUND SAFE AND WELL..NO MATTER WHO IS TO BLAME !!

 

i totaly agree

[MK5]

i'd like to think they didn't do but i'm afraid its looking more and more like they are involved in some way

 

my feeling is that Maddy's death was accidental, and that on discovering her body the parents spun an elaborate lie to cover up the fact that they left 3 very young children alone

 

not sure what they could have done with the body, but they were right by the sea....

[GT_Jim]

its harsh what happend but if she was abducted why did they leave the other two children it doesnt make sense, looking at it there are a lot of things that shouldnt have happened and this is one of them

[jayson2.3pinto]

people keep saying the police could do more but what more can they do

the mcanns should not off left there children her being a professional she should off known better ,the potuguese police and local shops may want them to go home maybe it will affect the trade next year people with familys may stay away but maybe it is just me but never been to sure off mr mcann it seems funny that soon as they go to sak them more questions directed at them they come home ?but if im wrong forgive me

[Vista]

people keep saying the police could do more but what more can they do

the mcanns should not off left there children her being a professional she should off known better ,the potuguese police and local shops may want them to go home maybe it will affect the trade next year people with familys may stay away but maybe it is just me but never been to sure off mr mcann it seems funny that soon as they go to sak them more questions directed at them they come home ?but if im wrong forgive me

 

Re the Police out there, I think the point is how poorly they handled the initial investigation and control of access to the crime scene. Also wasn't the resort offering a regular rounds service where a nanny goes round all the apartments looking in on the children regularly? I've no idea if they were making use of that facility or not, I'm sure it's been reported but I can't remember.

 

In truth, it doesn't really matter if they come home or not, there's a european wide extradition treaty nowadays. If the portugese police wanted them back they'd have little choice but to go or be arrested here and sent back.

[Posse]

They deffo done it me thinks i said from the start she never seems to say fook all or shows that's shes cares If it was one of my kids i would be out 24/7 looking for them not traveling around the world meeting do gooders.She killed her shit her pants then went to that restaurant so she had a good alilbi then went back and got shot of her little girl then made the call.

[marky4]

i really hope they didn't do it but there does seem to be more and more evidence against them

 

if they did do it they will get slaughtered and if they didn't then it looks like they are being set up who knows

 

as for the police they did not do enough at the start i thought they where fooking useless

 

time will tell