Escort Mk1 4 Door Posted November 25, 2012 Report Posted November 25, 2012 as above i got a 1700 xflow, fully rebuilding with, gp7 cam, ported 1600 gt head, unleaded converted, 3 angle valve seats, lotus double valve springs, basicly everythings new or replaced with upgrades, its not going to be a senceable driver by any means just about the go with that basic spec whats carbs do people thing, twin 40's single 45 twin 50's also doing another project running a carb converted st170 with vvt still working what carbs do u think for that?
Escort Mk1 4 Door Posted November 26, 2012 Author Report Posted November 26, 2012 any one whos running a xflow??
puddy Posted November 26, 2012 Report Posted November 26, 2012 Did you ever find out what spec the 'GP7' cam was ? For the x flow, unless its a FULL race engine , twin 40's will suffice, I have a 1660 x flow in my tina, ported head,1300 hi comp pistons,BCF3 cam, and I am running single 32/36 on mine,might gain a few more bhp with side draughts , but I prefer to be able to go places in it @ 30mpg. Puddy
Davewrc Posted November 26, 2012 Report Posted November 26, 2012 Twin 40's will be good for the x-flow and twin 45's for the zetec but they have have the 5th progression hole otherwise it will have a flat spot.
Escort Mk1 4 Door Posted November 26, 2012 Author Report Posted November 26, 2012 i know the cams one of george polly spec think its on spec with a6 cam max lift alowed by the cam bearing height hardly any dueration
Escort Mk1 4 Door Posted November 26, 2012 Author Report Posted November 26, 2012 okay so 40's for the xflow any one had any dealings with a single 45 as i can get one with manifold aswell and would 50's be to much for the st170 engine?
Mrs O/H/C Posted November 26, 2012 Report Posted November 26, 2012 We have used twin 40s and twin 45s on our X.Flow. I would say for economy and performance twin 40s are adequate
Escort Mk1 4 Door Posted November 26, 2012 Author Report Posted November 26, 2012 economy whats that? power
Davewrc Posted November 26, 2012 Report Posted November 26, 2012 St170 would be better on throttle bodies. I don't think a pair of carbs would push the power much over stock. I'm thinking of building one next and using the stock TB and ecu, 170hp and VVT for free with no setup required is fine by me.
Escort Mk1 4 Door Posted November 27, 2012 Author Report Posted November 27, 2012 im not looking for a up in power as such with the st170 engine, but if i drop carbs on it bar making one engine mount and fitting a elecy fuel pump in plug and play so peoples oppion on a single 45 carb on a 1700 xflow got to let the guy know tonight if not anyone got a manifold for my 40's to go on
cdeane74 Posted November 27, 2012 Report Posted November 27, 2012 ive got the 4 hole 45s on my st170 and cant even notice flat spot and had a 1640 xflow on 40s which ran nice too
Escort Mk1 4 Door Posted November 27, 2012 Author Report Posted November 27, 2012 thanks for the input just need to fine a suitable manifold now (for both sides) exhaust has snapped yet again. abd some 45's to dump in my mk5 st escort hehe
Toby Posted November 28, 2012 Report Posted November 28, 2012 Twin 40's always are better for performance on a tuned engine (if set up) than a twin choke or single carb. An A6 cam is more about duration than lift compared to the modern grinds ie 244, 254, 264 are high lift, short (relative to old A grinds) duration. If you google Kent Cams they have a lot of their specs on line for reference. If it's your exhaust manifold that keeps breaking on the crossflow there is a very effective fix. Make a clamp that goes around the down pipe nears the engine and take it across onto one of the gear box bolts (usually the one on the sticky out lug). Peco used to supply these as standard with their manifolds and it was THE fix.
puddy Posted November 28, 2012 Report Posted November 28, 2012 Twin 40's always are better for performance on a tuned engine (if set up) than a twin choke or single carb. An A6 cam is more about duration than lift compared to the modern grinds ie 244, 254, 264 are high lift, short (relative to old A grinds) duration. If you google Kent Cams they have a lot of their specs on line for reference. If it's your exhaust manifold that keeps breaking on the crossflow there is a very effective fix. Make a clamp that goes around the down pipe nears the engine and take it across onto one of the gear box bolts (usually the one on the sticky out lug). Peco used to supply these as standard with their manifolds and it was THE fix. The master has spoken . puddy
Escort Mk1 4 Door Posted November 28, 2012 Author Report Posted November 28, 2012 ill stick some pics up of the cam when i pull it out from mock up and the problems im having with the manifolds are they keep breaking between 1 and 4 on the joint at the top
Toby Posted December 3, 2012 Report Posted December 3, 2012 Twin 40's always are better for performance on a tuned engine (if set up) than a twin choke or single carb. An A6 cam is more about duration than lift compared to the modern grinds ie 244, 254, 264 are high lift, short (relative to old A grinds) duration. If you google Kent Cams they have a lot of their specs on line for reference. If it's your exhaust manifold that keeps breaking on the crossflow there is a very effective fix. Make a clamp that goes around the down pipe nears the engine and take it across onto one of the gear box bolts (usually the one on the sticky out lug). Peco used to supply these as standard with their manifolds and it was THE fix. The master has spoken . puddy Lol - Yes there's not much I haven't broken!
Toby Posted December 3, 2012 Report Posted December 3, 2012 ill stick some pics up of the cam when i pull it out from mock up and the problems im having with the manifolds are they keep breaking between 1 and 4 on the joint at the top It's all the vibration off the engine and the whole system is only supported at the head and at the axle - it's no wonder really! The manifold to gear box clamp will stop it mate.
Escort Mk1 4 Door Posted December 3, 2012 Author Report Posted December 3, 2012 mine didnt fit with that bracket i might weld a mount on the car up the front. i have always had to pull the manifold out to get it to bolt on as there always to close together on 1 and 4 and think its the stress
Fiesta Steve Posted December 4, 2012 Report Posted December 4, 2012 45's on a crossflow with 36mm chokes
deadly456 Posted December 8, 2012 Report Posted December 8, 2012 I ran a 1700 xflow on short circuit tracks with a 40 dfa and it was so reliable its unreal
harris horse power Posted December 9, 2012 Report Posted December 9, 2012 i have a pair of weber 40s on a xflow manifold for sale if your intreasted? simon
Escort Mk1 4 Door Posted December 10, 2012 Author Report Posted December 10, 2012 i got 40's in my shed jetted for a 130bhp camed cvh just need a manifold for them mate thanks for offer tho
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