Escort RS 4 Spoke push through centres

[Muzzman]

I've just bought a lovely set of Mk1 RS 4 spokes off a member of this parish however they didn't come with the centre's, if any of you have some i'd like to buy them off you or can someone point me to where i can buy them off the internet, obviously i'd like to get them on the car ASAP. Thanks

[bigbadsquare]

I've just bought a lovely set of Mk1 RS 4 spokes off a member of this parish however they didn't come with the centre's, if any of you have some i'd like to buy them off you or can someone point me to where i can buy them off the internet, obviously i'd like to get them on the car ASAP. Thanks

I have just put a set of grey rs centres on eBay ?? £25 delivered if your quick I will take them off text me 07889 441420

[johnnyspencer]

you will have a job finding them i think. i assume you mean the push through from the inside type? i will keep my eyes open for you

[Muzzman]

you will have a job finding them i think. i assume you mean the push through from the inside type? i will keep my eyes open for you

Yep they're the ones, they stick out, appreciate it if you could.

 

Can i use the centres like bigbadsquare suggests as a temporary measure?

[Vista]

Yep they're the ones, they stick out, appreciate it if you could.

 

Can i use the centres like bigbadsquare suggests as a temporary measure?

 

 

Not sure which ones he has, do you have a link? If they're mk2 ones and you have mk1 wheels, then no as they're a different size

[Muzzman]

[Vista]

Those are your wheels? What's the part no on them and what size is the hole in the centre?

 

I ask as the bottom right wheel looks to have the correct part no and width for a mk1 RS wheel (5.5J) but a smaller centre hole. It should be 70mm to take the type of cap that pushes through from behind

[Muzzman]

I'll have to take a look, i was told when purchasing that they were original with the push through centre, i can take a look tonight and measure

[Muzzman]

I have a hole of 65mm measured from the front. Part number H7IAB - 1007 - AC

 

13 x 5.5 H2

[Vista]

Hmmmm, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that they're in fact the mk2 JPS capri rims and someone has machined off the extra -C that denotes them on the end of the part no (JPS wheel part no is H71AB 1007AC -C). Mk1 RS wheels should have a 70mm hole in the centre

 

look at the pic below, on the right is a mk1 RS wheel and the left a JPS wheel, they're identical but for the centre hole size and part number

 

 

 

There's a guide to RS wheels in the how to room if you want to download it and have a read

[Muzzman]

Oh b*llocks........ i'm going to stop buying second hand stuff, always goes wrong for me. What shall i do about bloody centres now. Are mk2 capri ones obtainable

 

Well that's £400 down the drain! Can't exactly drive round without centres

[Vista]

Panic not. get some correct centre caps and take them to a competent machine shop and they should be able to machine out the centres to fit your caps then no-one will be able to tell the difference. 

[Muzzman]

Okay, what a load of faff, turning out to be expensive for wheels that aren't even correct. Still get the push through from the back ones?

[Muzzman]

I've asked the person that sold them to me for an explanation, just wait for a reply.......f*ck sticks, that'll teach me to be trusting

[Vista]

If you want them to look right on a MK1 AVO car then yes.

 

The AVO club used to sell reproduction push through centre caps (though I don't know if they still do). You have to join the club to buy from them but it's worth a phone call to their parts guy

[johnnyspencer]

still good wheels, they look great! and as said above shouldnt cost much to get the centers machined out then they would be exactly the same. dont worry about it, i wouldnt

[Muzzman]

Okay, I've got over my initial rage

 

Spoke to the chap that sold them too me, he bought them off of someone 5 years ago, never used them. He's a decent enough chap and I don't think he would have done it intentionally.

[Vista]

You paid quite a premium for them but they'll still look great on your car and with the centres machined out will be indistinguishable from mk1 RS wheels anyway. I wouldn't get too down about it.

[Vista]

If it's any consolation, it's fairly common for them to be mistaken for bonafide mk1 RS alloys, here's another set being advertised as such

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-X-FORD-RS-ESCORT-MK-MEXICO-alloy-wheels-with-5-5-x-13-cast-into-the-spokes-/321136315365?pt=UK_Cars_Parts_Vehicles_Wheels_tyres_Trim_Nuts_ET&hash=item4ac5374be5

[Muzzman]

Just had another thought, will the bolts from my Mk1 Steelies be okay with the new wheels or do I need to buy a different kind? I've been recommended metal Compomotive push through centres as a temporary measure while I try and track down some RS centres and then get the wheels machined down

[Vista]

No, you'll need proper RS flat washer wheel bolts like these, I assume you still have mk1 imperial studs on it?

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-ESCORT-MK1-RS-2000-WHEEL-NUTS-AND-WASHERS-7-16-/120844760058?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1c22e8b3fa

[mk2 mike]

Not sure about mk1 4 spokes but mk2 4 spokes have flat shoulders on needing matching nuts. What do yours have? Aren't steels tapered holes? If so you'll need nuts. eBay or midland wheels do them.

[Muzzman]

Just think how painful i'm going to be if i ever try to attempt something more complicated than buying wheels for my car

[johnnyspencer]

found some on ebay!! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Escort-Mexico-RS2000-AVO-mk1-mk2-RS-Alloy-Centre-Caps-with-decals-/181154194372?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2a2da1a3c4

 

[Vista]

found some on ebay!! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Escort-Mexico-RS2000-AVO-mk1-mk2-RS-Alloy-Centre-Caps-with-decals-/181154194372?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2a2da1a3c4

 

 

And they, by the sound of it, will fit your wheels without modification to the wheels as they've been remanufactured for the smaller diameter centre hole