Laquer

[tazrocks88]

some people i have spoken 2 about painting my car have said dont laquer it as its going to be a flat colour and can cause issues with the laquer peeling what do people advise its going 2 be done with 2k paint do i laquer it or not?

[c1arke]

i think you got to by a paint that's meant to be lacked like a under coat base coat then lacker like on ricks car

[xpackken]

doesnt make sense any lacquer can flake if not preped right . my advise would be if its a solid colour ie non mettalic go for direct gloss 2k . or you can go clear overbase .

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[tazrocks88]

my advise would be if its a solid colour ie non mettalic go for direct gloss 2k .

where would i get that from?

[16super]

^^^^^^^ No need to laquer if solid colour unless as xpackken says you do it in solid clear over base, but if you really want to just make sure paint is dry (make sure it is)then scotch it off & apply clearcoat as long as you key it up properly you shouldn't have any issues with flaking. But you shouldn't need to depends what colour you're painting it if you're goin to paint it in red,white,black or a pastel colour they're usually a soft pigment & will go milky & die, you're better off painting them in cob then that will protect the colour from fading. Being a painter, if funds permit I would always go for cob.

[xpackken]

anywere thats a paint supplyer . basically put it on the same as you would put lacquer on . when you put it on it drys the way it looks when its wet when first applyed .

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[xpackken]

i agree direct gloss is just easyer mate . but if you feel that you can clear over base is better and then your not restricted on colours either .

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[pauln]

^^^^^^^ No need to laquer if solid colour unless as xpackken says you do it in solid clear over base, but if you really want to just make sure paint is dry (make sure it is)then scotch it off & apply clearcoat as long as you key it up properly you shouldn't have any issues with flaking. But you shouldn't need to depends what colour you're painting it if you're goin to paint it in red,white,black or a pastel colour they're usually a soft pigment & will go milky & die, you're better off painting them in cob then that will protect the colour from fading. Being a painter, if funds permit I would always go for cob.

 

I have been meaning to have a practice with the new water based paints which will need a laquer/clear to seal them. Is there a specific laquer or are they all the same (i'm not sure of the makeup of them (2k, ayryllic?).

[xpackken]

^^^^^^^ No need to laquer if solid colour unless as xpackken says you do it in solid clear over base, but if you really want to just make sure paint is dry (make sure it is)then scotch it off & apply clearcoat as long as you key it up properly you shouldn't have any issues with flaking. But you shouldn't need to depends what colour you're painting it if you're goin to paint it in red,white,black or a pastel colour they're usually a soft pigment & will go milky & die, you're better off painting them in cob then that will protect the colour from fading. Being a painter, if funds permit I would always go for cob.

 

I have been meaning to have a practice with the new water based paints which will need a laquer/clear to seal them. Is there a specific laquer or are they all the same (i'm not sure of the makeup of them (2k, ayryllic?).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

same top coat mate . respray in waterbase . have you got an oven ?

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[tazrocks88]

i have a painter (mate) who is goin 2 paint it for me he is happy 2 laquer it so is it worth my while 2 have it laqured?

if i do this does the base coat have 2 be a specific 2k base coat paint? sorry for the 20 Q's i know nothing about paint!

[Rick]

if its not shiny when dry it needs laquer.

 

the plus side on laquering is you can polish the fook out of it when its done

[bomber1]

sorry to hijack the thread but why do metalics need laquer. is it because it wont polish up like a solid colour or is it to protect the flakes? any help much o thank you

[deluxemk1]

Bottom line is metallic base coats that are a base and clear laquer system are only to colour the panels. It wont fall off if not laquered,but it will look awful and last five seconds outside!The clear laquer is designed to give a protective and attractive shiny finish, weatherproof and just nice to look at! The old metallics from the seventies etc like you would get on a mk2 1600e etc were single pack metallics or in other words painted the metallic on and shone from the same application like solid colour 2 pack or cellulose does.Sounds better til you use the stuff ,its pants and really no one has used it for years.As everyone says the best way to do it is even if the car is a solid colour e.g. red /yellow etc is to do it in base and clear. The base eg normal red goes on the same way a metallic would mixed with thinners/or water for those using it.It will dry matt as does the metallic paint.Then a good laquer on top with no flatting between coats to seal it and make it shine.If for any reason basecoat is left for more than a few hours before laquer it MUST be keyed up with fine paper like you would use for polishing or a fine scotchbrite pad.To be dead certain id then apply a half or mist coat of base again before clear coats.At least if you do it in base and clear you can key the surrounding panels if its a repair flick the base colour into the next panels and clear coat all of the repair and surrounding panels with laquer for a perfect finish thats solid colour base included.Do that and you will have a perfect matching repair that will not fade.A mad man paints single panels in direct gloss paint it never looks right if your fussy! I painted a hillman hunter yesterday at the workshop all over in solid colour I think its the first time Ive painted solid colur gloss for 5 years and only because we couldnt do it in base coat !