72mk1escort Posted February 1, 2008 Report Posted February 1, 2008 Right i am after fitting 1300GT Pistons,Connecting Rods,1300GT Head Onto My Current Engine (as i know its a good 38,000 mile block etc ). I then will be fitting a twin choke webber,KnN Filter,4 branch manifold and escort sport exhaust system (standard type) so basically i am making it 1300GT spec. Can this be done are am i being silly
petrolhead Posted February 1, 2008 Report Posted February 1, 2008 I think the 1300Gt head will fit BUT if you put 1300GT pistons in you will not increase the capacity but you will reduce the compression (less power). common misconception. The crossflows share the same bOre size so if you want to convert to 1300cc you need to change the crank as it is a longer throw and that is where the capacity increase comes from. You'e best off just buying a good 1300gt, escort-tec does them for £50
hotrodholty Posted February 1, 2008 Report Posted February 1, 2008 if your gonnna puta 1300 in you might aswell put a 1600 in and just tell everyone (insurance)its a 1300, 99% of people wont tell the difference between 1100, 1300 and 1600s
bortaf Posted February 1, 2008 Report Posted February 1, 2008 At least the 1100 and 1300 share the same block, the 1600 block is taller and stands out a mile and you'll basicly be driving with no insurance! better not hit me in an uninsured car And i can guarentee a copper or insurance surveyor WON'T be one of the 99% who can't tell the difference
hotrodholty Posted February 1, 2008 Report Posted February 1, 2008 At least the 1100 and 1300 share the same block, the 1600 block is taller and stands out a mile and you'll basicly be driving with no insurance!better not hit me in an uninsured car And i can guarentee a copper or insurance surveyor WON'T be one of the 99% who can't tell the difference i always thought the blocks where the same and the 1600 was just a bored out 1300 block, and the 1300 was a stroked 1100 when i changed mine from an 1100 to a 1600 i didnt notice any big differneces (mine is insured as a 1600 though).
72mk1escort Posted February 1, 2008 Author Report Posted February 1, 2008 Right this can be done then could someone please write me a list of the bits i will be needing to convert my 1100 engine into a 1300GT. Cheers
NginEEr Posted February 1, 2008 Report Posted February 1, 2008 you would be surprised i know a local racing engine builder who is an insurance surveyor no fooling him
72mk1escort Posted February 1, 2008 Author Report Posted February 1, 2008 Right this can be done then could someone please write me a list of the bits i will be needing to convert my 1100 engine into a 1300GT. Cheers
Fiesta Steve Posted February 1, 2008 Report Posted February 1, 2008 Right i am after fitting 1300GT Pistons,Connecting Rods,1300GT Head Onto My Current Engine (as i know its a good 38,000 mile block etc ). I then will be fitting a twin choke webber,KnN Filter,4 branch manifold and escort sport exhaust system (standard type) so basically i am making it 1300GT spec. Can this be done are am i being silly If the blocks are the same you'll need all the above plus a 1300 crank You might be able to leave the 1100 pistons in, see which give better c/r
petrolhead Posted February 1, 2008 Report Posted February 1, 2008 to convert a 1100 to a 1300GT you need to swap over nearly all the moving parts. Crank, conrods, 1.1 pistons could stay to raise CR and head. So it goes back to my first statement: why not just buy a good 1300GT for £50? 1600GT block is an inch taller, it will fit where a 1300GT goes. 1.1, 1.3 &1.6 share the same bore size. Any half-serious individual could identify the engines by doing 10mins of research on the internet just from raising the bonnet. The amount it costs to send an insurance inspector out to a crash site, you can bet that he/she will be more than half-serious. It's not a risk worth taking in my opinion.
petrolhead Posted February 1, 2008 Report Posted February 1, 2008 damn you and your fast typing Fiesta Steve
Fiesta Steve Posted February 1, 2008 Report Posted February 1, 2008 I'll forgive your slow typing as you gave a more detailed answer
72mk1escort Posted February 1, 2008 Author Report Posted February 1, 2008 Im not trying to hide it from the insurance company i just thought it would be easier to keep my 1100 block cause i know its a good un Thanks for all of the info But what does CR stand for
escortmad79 Posted February 1, 2008 Report Posted February 1, 2008 Instead of wasting your money converting an 1100 to a 1300 why not just buy & fit a 1300? They're a lot cheaper than 1600s as they're not as popular
72mk1escort Posted February 1, 2008 Author Report Posted February 1, 2008 Instead of wasting your money converting an 1100 to a 1300 why not just buy & fit a 1300? They're a lot cheaper than 1600s as they're not as popular Its hard to find a 1300GT that you know the history etc of and really i would want to hear/see an engine run before i bothered to fit it into my own car
72mk1escort Posted February 1, 2008 Author Report Posted February 1, 2008 "Crank, conrods, 1.1 pistons could stay to raise CR and head" What does CR stand for?
72mk1escort Posted February 1, 2008 Author Report Posted February 1, 2008 Compression Ratio Makes sense now thanks
72mk1escort Posted February 1, 2008 Author Report Posted February 1, 2008 If i Fit a 1300GT/Sport Engine,a twin choke webber,KnN Filter,4 branch manifold and escort sport exhaust system (standard type) so basically i am making it 1300GT spec. If i do all of the above how much power (roughly) will i be putting out? Also will my standard gearbox,propshaft and axel put up with the extra power?
petrolhead Posted February 1, 2008 Report Posted February 1, 2008 I would say that if you get 70bhp on a used engine with those mods that would be good. If you took the time to keep the 1.1 pistons to raise the CR and changed the cam to a BCF2 (fast road) and a bit of DIY port matching you might break 80bhp. Doesn't sound alot but they still go well in an OSF
petrolhead Posted February 1, 2008 Report Posted February 1, 2008 That power won't even bother the standard gearbox, prop or axle. If it does then the part was already on its way out
72mk1escort Posted February 1, 2008 Author Report Posted February 1, 2008 Thanks Alot Mate Also what is port matching
petrolhead Posted February 1, 2008 Report Posted February 1, 2008 Difficult to explain but basically the holes on your intake and exhaust manifolds never quite match up to the ports in the cylinder head. Port matching essentaily is getting a tracing of your cylinder head ports, holding it up to your manifolds and grinding away to enlarge the holes to match perfectly. If you do it properly, the air fuel has a lovely smooth flow straight into the cylinder without any obstructing lips or ridges. Worth one or two horses, but every little counts!
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