davreeve Posted July 15, 2008 Report Posted July 15, 2008 Right please bear in mind that i,m one sandwich short of a picnic.Please could someone let me know if water based car paint is DIY friendly i.e safe to use at home(to an extent)and relativly easy to apply.I,ve used 2 k paints up until now which although are poisonous they are easy to use with a good durable finish.2k seems difficult to obtain now and i dont like celly paint hence my question. Any advice much appreciated
kirk10 Posted July 15, 2008 Report Posted July 15, 2008 water based paint is user friendly and just smells like normall imulsion house paint when sprayed (still got to use a mask tho ) same to apply as any other paint but takes longer to dry and more chance of getting bits land in it colour matches are better i think not that it matters if your painting a hole car its the lacquer people may moan about as its still the same old stuff unless you get a water based compliant lacquer to use but heard some compliant lacquer is terible but your local paint supplier will advise you on that just dont go wet flatting the water base coat down as you will just wash it off
xpackken Posted July 16, 2008 Report Posted July 16, 2008 you will still be using the same 2k lacquer . its just the basecoat thats different and i would say that ya can put waterbase on alot wetter than solvent . _________________ Brazilian Forum
mk3tina Posted July 16, 2008 Report Posted July 16, 2008 BUT! if you miss any areas with the laquer or go a bit thin with it, or the laquer polishes through etc etc, the colour will just wash off, id just get the regular 2k stuff
MightySprocket Posted July 16, 2008 Report Posted July 16, 2008 you really need to bake water based paint on i think
kirk10 Posted July 16, 2008 Report Posted July 16, 2008 i do mobile smart repairs for a living and use a hot hair dryer or heat lamp with water you need air to pass over the panel to dry it i no a lad with a body shop and he does alot of full spray jobs using water based paint and all he uses is 4 of them electric fans than swivel on there own from side to side gets a perfect finish every time 1 thing youve got to make sure is that the base coat is dry before you lacquer it or else it will just all go milky with the water trapped under the lacquer
deluxemk1 Posted July 16, 2008 Report Posted July 16, 2008 You would get away with doing blow ins or a small panel if your careful without a booth any more than that you would be stuffed.Fred in a sheds days are numbered! They are already rationing solvent basecoat at the few places you can still get it and then its only half a litre per customer. Good news is though there is a new paint technology called ultra high solid paint which replaces high solid paint.Its thicker and covers really fast,it mixes 3.1. to 20 per cent thinner now Lechler will sell it ongoing its called mak 4 uhs top coat. This will still caters for all solid colours like you would find on old skool fords etc. Its two pack still and you need a air fed still. Mak 5 is available in 1k material and can be used for solid colour.If you mix it 60 per cent paint forty thinner as a old solvent basecoat you can treat it as base and clear and you could put 2 k laquer over the top the top of giving you a better gloss off the gun also allows you to blend the solid colour into the surrounding panels which is always done really by a good painter. Mak 4 polishes like normal celly any way if you dont want to do the 2k laquer thing. Anyone want any info on uhs paint just ask. Im getting the uhs primer /solid colour mix systems in my place shortly and have all the info on computer to go with my waterbourne system .
davreeve Posted July 16, 2008 Author Report Posted July 16, 2008 cheers for the info guys very much appreciated.
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