Retro-gone. Posted October 18, 2008 Report Posted October 18, 2008 my cam in the 2.0 pinto needs replacing regardless of what i choose, so heres my dillemma.. a mild road fr30 cam with new followers will cost me £180 a new standard 2.0 cam inc followers will cost me £80 is it really worth paying an extra £100 for the kent fr30 cam, will it make a hundred pounds worth of difference? i know the fr30 is supposed to give more low down pulling power but theres no mention of what it does to the top end , does it lose at the top end to gain at the lower? ive read that the standard 2.0 pinto cam is 'often overlooked and discarded unneceserally' (words of david vizard) bear in mind that other than the K&N filter my 2.0 engine is totally stock.
Copey Posted October 18, 2008 Report Posted October 18, 2008 you wont be dissappointed with that cam, my mate loves his and it pulls like a train and is dead fast
Retro-gone. Posted October 18, 2008 Author Report Posted October 18, 2008 but has he done any other mods to the engine tom?
Copey Posted October 18, 2008 Report Posted October 18, 2008 yeah in fairness, injection head, bored to just over 2.0(uses 2.8 pistons) and a DGAS, another lad is stickin one in his otherwise stock pinto, and it will make a sizeable difference
Retro-gone. Posted October 18, 2008 Author Report Posted October 18, 2008 ok, i need to know what if any difference the cam makes in a stock engine.
Conor Posted October 18, 2008 Report Posted October 18, 2008 ok, i need to know what if any difference the cam makes in a stock engine. Absolutely shedloads. Had one in my Pinto. Pulls like a train all through the rev range you'd normally drive at. Really noticable up hills. Was running a standard 32/36 Weber with it. Add a 4-2-1 tubular exhaust manifold and even with the standard exhaust it makes even more difference. When I went back to a standard cam on the recon engine I had fitted, it felt flat compared to the old one even though that was a smokey joe.
Guest chriscapriman Posted October 18, 2008 Report Posted October 18, 2008 money well spent for the fr30 kit i rekon , mine pulls like a train, 155lb/ft and 118 horsepower with this and afew other little mods
Retro-gone. Posted October 18, 2008 Author Report Posted October 18, 2008 well thats confirmed it, thanks guys just one more vital question, do i really need to fit new followers or can i use mine. and do i really need to fit a vernier pulley or will stock timing be ok.
Guest chriscapriman Posted October 18, 2008 Report Posted October 18, 2008 u dont need to fit a vernier puley, but the weight difference is amazing. mine is set at 0 anyway they reccomend new followers so it can all bed in together, although my mate just put the cam in his tina and that has been ok for over 12 months so dont know tbh i was having my head reconned so thought i mightaswell go the whole hog
Tom Posted October 18, 2008 Report Posted October 18, 2008 mate you need to fit new followers with a new cam! if you dont you'll have increased wear and less service life on the cam. When you first fire it up you need to hold the revs around 2-3k for the first few mins to ensure adequate lubrication. On a seperate note, i had an fr32 in my pinto (stock otherwise) and it was brilliant, smooth at 1000 rpm and pulled all the way through with no waiting for it to come 'on cam' If you want to dial in your new cam properly to make the most out of what it can do for your engine, get a vernier pulley - its a piece of piss to set up properly and makes all the difference
Baz. Posted October 18, 2008 Report Posted October 18, 2008 mate you need to fit new followers with a new cam! if you dont you'll have increased wear and less service life on the cam.When you first fire it up you need to hold the revs around 2-3k for the first few mins to ensure adequate lubrication. On a seperate note, i had an fr32 in my pinto (stock otherwise) and it was brilliant, smooth at 1000 rpm and pulled all the way through with no waiting for it to come 'on cam' If you want to dial in your new cam properly to make the most out of what it can do for your engine, get a vernier pulley - its a piece of piss to set up properly and makes all the difference good advise
Admin Vista Posted October 18, 2008 Admin Report Posted October 18, 2008 mate you need to fit new followers with a new cam! if you dont you'll have increased wear and less service life on the cam.When you first fire it up you need to hold the revs around 2-3k for the first few mins to ensure adequate lubrication. On a seperate note, i had an fr32 in my pinto (stock otherwise) and it was brilliant, smooth at 1000 rpm and pulled all the way through with no waiting for it to come 'on cam' If you want to dial in your new cam properly to make the most out of what it can do for your engine, get a vernier pulley - its a piece of piss to set up properly and makes all the difference good advise Tis indeed, one small thing to add: use plenty of cam lube.
SmokeEm Posted October 18, 2008 Report Posted October 18, 2008 Tony mate, you don't need a full kit. Just get cam & lube from Rally Design and a set of std followers from ford. Works out a bit cheaper. Don't forget a new spray bar too - £7 well spent
Retro-gone. Posted October 19, 2008 Author Report Posted October 19, 2008 yeah i know i dont need a full kit, and rest assured i fit new spray bars probably more frequent than anyone else
Tom Posted October 19, 2008 Report Posted October 19, 2008 be careful though as some cams require followers with slighty different ramp angles and pad length
caprinerd Posted October 19, 2008 Report Posted October 19, 2008 yeah i know i dont need a full kit, and rest assured i fit new spray bars probably more frequent than anyone else same as mate, i remember the mk3 tina`s we all had and how many had engine fires due to dry cams
bortaf Posted October 19, 2008 Report Posted October 19, 2008 The problem mainly on the early pintos was the cam casting tech, chilled casting cured most of the problems and on the 205 engine they used a larger hole in the spray bar fitted a 2nd hand FR30 to mine with old used follers and had no probs in 10,000 miles but i may have been kucky The FR 30 really masques the gap in the 2.0 box's ratios and is great around town giving the feeling low down similar to my V6 (2.3) cortina but without the running out of puff higher up the rev range like a V6 does Having said that i have no experiance of the other FR cams in the range
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