Help me with my starter motor wires please!

[Lukey48screamer]

Can someone out there with a pinto or done a xflow to pinto swap please post me up a piccy or two and some instructions on the correct wiring for a starter motor as I almost blew myself to bits at 3am this morning trying to connect my battery up!

Everytime I go near it with the cable I get a flash of blue light and the car trying to start itself up...

 

Ok so the battery cable and my fuel pump/ignition wire (red with blue crimp) comes off the big stud on the right with the wire that used to go to my + terminal on battery (yellow crimp),

leaving the two from the loom that are:

one blk/yellow wire with the blue sleeve and the thick black wire. These both went to the old xflow solenoid...

I think maybe they are the wrong way around but would like an honest opinion on it 1st before I go and wreck something

 

 

Right after just disconnecting both the solenoid wires I tried the battery cables again and the car was still trying to start up...

So Ive disconnected the red wire with the yellow crimp.

Then tried the cables again with only my ign/fuel pump feed on and no start-up, good.. but just fried my fuel pump wire

Any ideas why this would happen? All I can think is that the pump is not earthed well enough, would this be correct or am I overlooking something?

[Fishtailparka]

The big wire on the right should go straight to the battery.

The big wire on the left shouldn't be there. There is a braided wire on that one that goes into the starter.

That wire on the left should be to the neg on the battery, and earthed to the starter by putting it on one of the bolts that holds the starter to the bellhousing.

The crimped wires on the right terminal will be constant fed live, do you really want that?

I put my feed to the coil on a seperately switched live feed, otherwise as you say, it will constantly want to start.

The yellow and black wire is in the right place (Ithink)

 

All that is from memory, but should help you work it out.

[Lukey48screamer]

1) "That wire on the left should be to the neg on the battery, and earthed to the starter by putting it on one of the bolts that holds the starter to the bellhousing"

I dont quite understand that as that wire goes into the loom... which I THINK earths up by the rad..

Do you mean if I put it straight onto one of the bolts holding the starter on I will be earthing the starter as I have an earth lead fixed in the boot?..

 

 

2) "There is a braided wire on that one that goes into the starter"

What does this braided wire do?

 

 

3) "The crimped wires on the right terminal will be constant fed live, do you really want that?"

The red wire (blue crimp) is a feed to a switch for my fuel pump&ignition

 

 

4) "Right after just disconnecting the (blk/yellow and thick black on the left) wires I tried the battery cables again and the car was still trying to start up"

So Ive disconnected the red wire with the yellow crimp and now its not cranking itself.

 

What do I do with the yellow crimp wire as that seems to be the one that turns the starter motor over?

 

Hope this makes sense

[Fishtailparka]

1) "That wire on the left should be to the neg on the battery, and earthed to the starter by putting it on one of the bolts that holds the starter to the bellhousing"

I dont quite understand that as that wire goes into the loom... which I THINK earths up by the rad..

Do you mean if I put it straight onto one of the bolts holding the starter on I will be earthing the starter as I have an earth lead fixed in the boot?..

 

I can't see where the wire comes from by looking at the pic. The one to the right should be the positive feed from the battery. The main earth lead should go to a bolt on the starter mount (or any other suitable earth point) You can't have too many earths, and it will help if it is right by the starter.

 

 

2) "There is a braided wire on that one that goes into the starter"

What does this braided wire do?

 

When you energise the solenoid (turn the key) it feeds the starter. If it is connected straight to the positive on the battery the engine will turn over as soon as you connect it.

 

3) "The crimped wires on the right terminal will be constant fed live, do you really want that?"

The red wire (blue crimp) is a feed to a switch for my fuel pump&ignition

 

sounds right

 

4) "Right after just disconnecting the (blk/yellow and thick black on the left) wires I tried the battery cables again and the car was still trying to start up"

So Ive disconnected the red wire with the yellow crimp and now its not cranking itself.

 

What do I do with the yellow crimp wire as that seems to be the one that turns the starter motor over?

 

Hope this makes sense

[Lukey48screamer]

Sorted it many thanks mate

Problem was the terminal on the main power cable shorting out against the solenoid casing

Took me all day to work it out but at least its sorted now!

Its almost to good to be true when you finally tackle something thats been a pain in the arse for days, Im a happy bunny