Whats a Quaife LSD like in the snow?

[petrolhead]

I am aware of the pro's and con's of Plate type vs Quaife LSD, but who here has actually got experience of a quaife diff on ice and snow?

 

I ask because I took mine out for a drive yesterday and a Mk2 with open diff in these conditions is truly shocking! I had to do a 5000rpm burn out to get off the drive and later became stuck when I parked up.

[Davewrc]

Its not going to make much difference in the ice and snow. Just you will spin both wheels instead of one.

 

Bare in mind there no weight on the driving wheels, you got tiny wheels and lots of power.

[X-pack-Glyn]

LSD + Snow = No No...

 

if you think your open diffs bad just wait till you try an LSD in the snow.

 

at least with an open diff one wheel spins and the other wheel stays put, going some way towards stopping the car sliding sideways if parked on an angle, and lsd will spin both.. if theres no grip theres no grip, no kind of lsd will solve that problem

 

i tried my capri in last years snow in feb...it was just not possible to stop it sliding even when i really tried.

[RS2kSX]

Took mine out on Wednesday night, had an hour in the carpark. loads of fun sidways everywhere and doing some great drifts...

 

Went out today and it's iced up a bit, bolldy leathal, as above no grip both wheels spinnig sideways with no forward motion at all, had to reverse out a couple of times, on the road it's a lot better jetting out of junctions as long as one wheels on the good stuff you can move, open diff wopuld just sit there.

 

all in get a quafe more +'s than -'s...

[RS2kSX]

 

nice day out...

[RS2kSX]

back behind bars now though...

[petrolhead]

Cheers for that. Am I right in thinking an ATB is a DIY fit yourself part that doesn't need proper setting up like a trans-x?

 

I was quite shocked at how little grip mine has compared to my sensible FWD Honda Accord.

[stickerboy]

Mine is lethal in the snow. I couldn't even get anywhere on a FLAT road.

 

Once you do get going though it funny seeing people run out the way when you're going sidways towards them up the street!!

[Beakster]

Its not going to make much difference in the ice and snow. Just you will spin both wheels instead of one.

 

Bare in mind there no weight on the driving wheels, you got tiny wheels and lots of power.

 

I did a lot of driving in bad conditions with my Capri a few weeks ago when I drove around Scotland. I have a normal diff, no LSD. I had lots of problems where I got stuck and was just spinning one wheel.

 

I don't think an LSD would have just made me spin both wheels. It means I would have been able to move both wheels which would mean double the traction.

 

Without an LSD, if one wheel is on ice and the other is on dry road, surely it would just spin the wheel on the ice and the one on the road would stay put. With an LSD the one on the road would turn as well meaning you wouldn't need to tell your girlfriend to get out and push like I had to.

 

The key to driving in the snow is high gear and very gentle throttle movements to avoid spinning wheels. I was starting in 2nd most of the time, and going up hills in 3rd gear at 20mph. Dropping to second when going up hills made me loose the back end a few times.

 

Some more pics of my adventure here: http://www.fordcapriforum.com/forum/vie ... 10&t=33845

 

 

[Mexico]

ATB just stands for Automatic Torque Biasing i think. ive not long bought myself a quaife unit for my Mk1 when its finally done. How snappy are they in the dry petrolhead?? got a tran x in a ford pop with an XE and its lethal

[Andrade]

[bomber1]

i was thinking about all this the other day for next winter. would it not also be an idea to use mud and snow tyres all round in these weather conditions as well as the lsd?