gearbox question

[mr shag]

i have got my hands on a 2.8 type 9 box is it worth shorting the input shaft so i can bolt it up to my pinto and how much of a job is it to get the shaft out

cheers

chris

[banarama]

i would sell it / buy a sierra one bolt straight in my friend. no grief

[Guest cortinamad-gonetoo]

me too

[Stu_B]

Do you deffo want 5spd? I have a 4 speed rocket box for sale & not too far from you.

[PAUL MANN]

just cut the end off & chamfer the end with a grinder

[bortaf]

just cut the end off & chamfer the end with a grinder

 

what he said, done it, it works

you "may" need to shorten the release bearing sleave as well, it depends i think on what clutch you use, i didn't have to but quite a few people have told me thay did and TBH it was like 20 years ago i did it and i can't remember what clutch i used so aint gonna state 100% that it will clear X amnd not Y

 

Mutch nice gear ratio spread than the pinto box though

 

A rocket box is only a rocket box IF it has the "ROCKET RATIOS" otherwise it's just a cortina type E box

[Ken B]

Before you cut the shaft down you need to make sure it hasn't got the heavy duty layshaft plate on front of box like this, you can just see it under input shaft:

 

If it has then you just use a 15mm spacer with cutout on front of box between the bellhousing. JLH morris minors sell them amongst others.

[mr shag]

cheers for the replys

just one thing surly if you put a 15 mm spacer between the bellhousing and box it will put the bolt holes for the gearbox cross member out of line the gearstick will be bashing the handbrake & will the prop still fit ?

i like the sound of just cutting a bit of the end

[Ken B]

If it hasn't got the layshaft plate on the front of box which early ones didnt have, then fine cut a bit off the shaft. But if its got the plate, how you gonna bolt the bellhousing on? Sierra/pinto bell housings dont have a cut out for it and wont fit.

[bortaf]

Before you cut the shaft down you need to make sure it hasn't got the heavy duty layshaft plate on front of box like this, you can just see it under input shaft:

 

If it has then you just use a 15mm spacer with cutout on front of box between the bellhousing. JLH morris minors sell them amongst others.

 

if you do that the gearstick will be too far back, Xmember wont fit and the prop will be too short

be easyer to cut the B/H to fit round the latshaft bearing plate surely ?

[Ken B]

No idea. Only just come up against all this myself in fitting one to my Anglia. To cut a long story short, I had a ali bellhousing but cutting out removed the strengthning gussets, so had to have some rewelded into bell housing. Bit more difficult if you have a cast iron one though.

I'm sorted now, but was just trying to point out a potential problem using "V" type 9 boxes.

[Stu_B]

Thats my old bellhousing from type E/ Rocket!

[Ken B]

yea its nice aint it. Looks even better now its been cleaned and repaired.

 

Can you spot the crack where the clutch arm pivot went??

[Stu_B]

Yeah looks very clean. What clutch set up are you using?

It had a dogy home made hydraulic clutch arm when I got it but the bearing holders collapsed which is why I switched to a 2000e (well I'm sure you saw on the other channel) I shoulda kept it & bought a concentric clutch kit from Burtons

[Ken B]

Well I've adapted a type 9 long front nose to take the standard Anglia bearing carrier and I05speed bearing and spacer all using a standard Anglia clutch arm. Keeps it all original hydrualic wise then onto a Pinto cover. My box is an ex Caterham and uses a smaller input shaft (19mm) so uses 17 splines. Zetec AP racing clutch plate fits inside a Pinto cover perfectly.

 

The box incidentally is the one as fitted to V series engines, hence the above posts. Caterham take them and modify the input shafts for some reason, but it does have the better ratios than the Sierra T9's.

[Stu_B]

Glad you got it all working

 

I got my Dad to cut & weld new bearing carriers into the existing arm (which was made up from 2 Anglia arms to do the same job as the spacer but hold a pinto bearing)

 

The Arm before we tried to fix it.

 

I put it all back together & something was off cos the bearing wouldn't slide down the shaft (I wasn't laughing at the time I can tell you!) I dunno if it was the placement of the new bearing carriers that was off or cos the pivot point for the arm was off/had play in it.... so I ditched it all & went 2000e.