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Forgive my ignorance...... Duratec related
cossieglen replied to sambo's topic in OLD SKOOL FORD CHAT
On the Duratec note again, I've just found this on the SBD website. It's an article from Fast Ford right back in 2003, when Steve first started developing the engine. Makes for interesting reading, here is a snippet..... Tuning You'd expect there to be plenty of scope for tuning the Duratec. Well, good news - there is. Up to a point anyway. Put simply, you don't have to do much to wring out the power, as SB Developments has done back-to-back tests all on the same day, after extensive preparation. By junking the standard induction system, which is intended for serious emissions control only, and replacing it with traditional induction methods, you can achieve truly staggering results. With a pair of 45 DCOE side draught carbs and managed ignition they got 170 bhp - that's 25 bhp over standard. By taking them off and fitting parallel throttle bodies the figure then went to 195 bhp. Then, after replacing them with SBD's own tapered throttle bodies, the power increased to 208 bhp. This, of course, is all on a completely standard engine with no other mods. The Duratec engine we have run has been testing in two forms, parallel throttle bodies which produced an output of approximately 195 bhp and then running the engine on tapered throttle bodies produced 203 bhp (this was used in the American SAE corrections). The implications of this are obvious. The engine is effectively a plug and play unit. If you want to compete in motorsport and are looking for an efficient unit then the Duratec could well be an option. With secondhand low-mileage units retailing at around £700, all you need after that is £1781.90 (plus VAT) of induction. It's kit that's unlikely to break or wear out in a hurry either. If you're unfortunate enough to blow the engine then all you need do is unbolt it and replace it with another. Compare that to tuning a traditional Ford engine such as a Pinto. To get in excess of 200 bhp you'd need eight grand-plus. And, if all you wanted was a good high powered plant, you could do the dirty and switch to H**nda power - then all you'd need is 'only' around five grand for a basic V-Tech unit. Put in these terms, the Duratec seems like a cheap motorsport unit 208bhp from a standard engine with no internal mods at all for £2800? Kinda puts it all in perspective for me. Throw in £500 for some cams, and another £500 for a decent manifold, £150 for some new springs and £100 for some piston pocketing and you're looking at just over £4k for a 230-235bhp duratec. Now to my ears that doesn't sound that expensive. If you want to read the whole article it's here... http://www.sbdev.co.uk/History_files/Hi ... Tuning.htm To read all the other SBD magazine features then visit the main website here, and click on Press Coverage.... http://www.sbdev.co.uk/Main.htm -
They can also drive across lakes if kept flat out, awesome
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Forgive my ignorance...... Duratec related
cossieglen replied to sambo's topic in OLD SKOOL FORD CHAT
Very nice engine that for the money Mark, the torque from the 2.3 is quite something, that'll have about 225lbs I reckon. Is this going in your XE powered car? I wish . . . . No i have bought Normally asbirated Y/B cossy for my other Mk1 Cortina,Keeping the XE `d one for a road car and building an out and out trackday car. Ah right, well still a top engine mate, Matt absolutely loved his for its long life he had with it. Make sure you get more power than Gaz, just to annoy him -
Forgive my ignorance...... Duratec related
cossieglen replied to sambo's topic in OLD SKOOL FORD CHAT
Very nice engine that for the money Mark, the torque from the 2.3 is quite something, that'll have about 225lbs I reckon. Is this going in your XE powered car? -
Will be interesting to see how Matt's performs with its new 300bhp Duratec, was quick enough with the cossie.
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Health and safety sucks hairy monkey balls! Tell me though, has there ever been such a claim on Santa Pod for any injuries sustained in the shed? Or have there ever been any injuries serious enough? Come on Gordon, stop being such a cock!
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Cool, cheers bud, always nice to know these things I met him once, when he came to buy my old bosses racing Fiesta (well at least to look at it, not sure if the deal was ever sealed). Just a shame I didn't have my old RS on the road then, or I'm sure we'd have probably had a good chat
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I thought it was Olympic blue
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What make of foam filter did you have for it Gaz? Steve Broughton runs ITG's on his engines, with no reduction in power, and that's what Matt always ran on his cossie too.
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How many cars did you get in the end?
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Ok mate, well I think my bro and I are going to concentrate on our cars tomorrow then, as Matt has lots to do in prep for putting the Duratec in, and I need to start stripping down my donor engine to get the block cleaned up ready for boring etc, and I need to utilise the weekends I have free. Hope you all have a great day, and look forward to seeing the results/vids
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How many cars are we looking at tomorrow then Gaz?
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Looking forward to seeing this Gaz, a little personal request, can you wait to put your car up until my Bro and I get there? Would be gutted if I missed it.
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I presume this is still all going ahead? My bro and I plan on coming down in the day to have a watch
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Suppose the only thing however is that it does cock up you doing the Dyno shoot out bruv Ah well, it'll just be fun to do the next one, which might include me too! I'm sure we'll still be there though.
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There you have it folks!!! I think that says it all!
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Have a look at Steve Broughton's results here mate for the reasons why. http://www.sbdev.co.uk/Duratec/Duratec%20Taper%20throttle%20top%20of%20the%20range%20kit.htm Matt's N/A Cossie is 225bhp, and a very good, very strong 225bhp at that, with 150lbs of Torque, and has helped him on the way to 20 class wins in sprinting. SBD's Duratec at the moment (yes there is more to come according to Steve) is 304bhp with 197lbs of torque. I don't think anyone can deny this is a considerable jump, and with the 315 Steve is talking about it having after the next phase, with over 200lbs of torque, Matt is staring a 90bhp and 50lbs torque gain over the current engine right square on in the face! Enough to temp even the harshest Duratec critics I would say.
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Well the new owner of the old engine is rather chuffed, which is good. I always worry that it wont be as good for someone else as it would be for me. Picked up my new Titan flywheel end of last week from SBD, it's well nice, I'll take a pic later, soooooo much lighter than the standard item, it's insane. Not skeleton as it's for the 8 1/2" clutch rather than the 7 1/4" item, but it has been very thinned down, anywhere that material could be removed has been. Picked up my donor 205 engine yesterday, so all the bits are there now to get on with all the building etc. Can't wait now, other side of the winter should deliver the glorious music of twin 48's on a mental pinto!
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Pig, don't do it, you'll only go and blow it up on the way
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Gaz said everyone mate, EVEN if it has a Zetec in it, I reckon Gaz's missus is slipping something in his evening brew
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I want mine to be finished. Oh well, just have to do it next year as well!
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Definitely retro al, and yeah that looks like Gary too.