It wont start!!!

[BronzeRS]

Right. I will try to be as blunt as possible and not whitter on!!

 

Just fitted my twin 40s in my pinto and the head gasket Had marked all the cam and crank so when i changed the head gasket, it was just a matter of lining the marks up in their rightful places and placing a cambelt back on.

 

But it wont start!! Doesnt even sound like it wants to fire. We have checked that there is petrol to the carbs and we have a spark but still no firing. So we checked the timing, which i am sure is 1-3-4-2 for a pinto?? Is this right.

 

So I removed the dist. cap and looked at the position of the rotor with the mark on the crank set to dead top (The little nook in the pulley. And my rotor is sitting on what appears to be three and not one?? Is this right??

 

As far as i am concerned i never touched the distributor or the cap, so the electronics havent been touched. But all my marks are as where they are when i removed everything so I am flummoxed as to what I have done wrong?

 

Any ideas people (with more ideas than me!!)??

 

Luke.

[MadMark2]

Im sure Pinto timing is 1-2-4-3

[Burns]

if cylinder one's at tdc, is the rotor arm pointing at 1? and are you sure the dizzy cap's not 180 degrees off?

[Jimbob-Squarepants ©]

Right, you set the engine up at TDC on the front pulley and the rotor arm was pointing to number 3? Turn your front pulley another complete turn 360 degrees and then see where the rotor is pointing. The cam and distributor always run at half the speed to the engine so they can be set 180 degrees out.

 

What I would do is remove your rocker cover and set the engine up on TDC with the front pulley.... now as I said, the cam runs at half the speed, so TDC on the firing stroke will mean that number one inlet & exhaust valves will be shut (cam lobes will not be pointing down on the followers).

 

Once you have done this, look at the rotor arm and see where it's pointing... it should be pointing at number one lead. If not, here is your problem.

 

As for firing order, my Anglia is 1-2-4-3, but not sure on your Pinto... I will pop down the shed to consult my Autodata book if you want?

[Jimbob-Squarepants ©]

Your firing order is : 1-3-4-2, and the rotor arm turns CLOCKWISE mate

[johnny_h]

1243 is x-flow firingorder. That's my 2p worth.

[MadMark2]

1-3-4-2....... Best remember that for when i put my pinto together

[BronzeRS]

Ta people, specially the wikipedia sized info bank that is jimbob;). I believe it is a timing problem. I say that as i turned the crank pulley 360 twice to TDC and the rotor arm is always on 3 or 2. This mean that the firing order is fooked as it should be on 1 or 4 at a full turn. I will sort it at the weekend.

[BronzeRS]

BTW, is there any more spaces for london to brighton. Dont know why but for some reason i thought it was next month and i wasnt sure on having the car done but as it is in a few months time, Iwould really like to go!!

[over_head_cam]

JFYI you can make whatever lead the rotor arm points at into No1, just swap the leads

[capriaddict]

if it still doesn't start i recomend new points and condenser

[mossy]

JFYI you can make whatever lead the rotor arm points at into No1, just swap the leads

 

Nice and simple....i like that!

[BronzeRS]

Right. Tried the lead trick and thats doesnt work neither:(.

 

Have an electronic ignition system on the car and I seem to have a really good spark from the car.

 

What worries me is that although moving the leads one space clocwise to make it fire correctly, If i had marked and removed everything correctly, then the leads wouldnt need moving in the first place, so something is still out of time.

 

Not to worry. My uncle is coming over to set it up for me correctly tomorrow, so I will let you know the outcome then.

[johnny_h]

BTW, is there any more spaces for london to brighton. Dont know why but for some reason i thought it was next month and i wasnt sure on having the car done but as it is in a few months time, Iwould really like to go!!

 

yes.

[bortaf]

If it's on 3 at TDC you've moved the dist pully while the belt was off.

Deffo 1342

set the bottom at TDC make sure the cam pointer is at the bottom pointing up at the dot in the head then make the rotor arm point to number one lead, if it dont just re-order the leads so it does, the timming may still be out a bit usually there's a notch in the dist body you align tthe mark in the centre of the rotor arn to to give you roughly number 1

Make sure the points are clean, if they have corroded the coil wont charge if they aint making a contact