Anyone work on HR/personel?

[X-pack-Glyn]

Right, il briefly explain the situation and give a short story of events.....

 

I went for a job interview with a competitor and accepted the job.

 

i handed in my notice and my employer asked where i was going.

 

i said none of your bussiness.

 

my new employer 10 mins after i hand in my notice phones my old manager for an reference without my knowledge or blessing.

 

as a resuly my life is made very difficult for the next month and now i cant trust my new manager an inch.

 

is there anything i can do about this? i start my new job thursday and had a completely open mind UNTILL all this kicked off i was looking forward to it all, now im allready looking for another job.

 

[Vista]

Tough one, but your old boss can't have given you a bad reference or you probably wouldn't have got the new job.

 

TBH I've never known a potential new employer not want some sort of reference and most won't think they need your permission to get it. After all his job is to make sure he employs the right person for his company not worry about whether the new employee would mind. In fact I suspect that if he thought you minded him checking your references he'd think you had something to hide and wouldn't have taken you on anyway.

 

If you enjoy the new job then I'd put it down to experience and not worry about it too much.

[mk3cokebottle]

i am put in this situation as a manager nearly everyday i have to call employers to get references for staff that are working for them , if i dont get refs or have spoken to an employer of past or present then i personally wouldnt employ the person in qeustion to place in any of my clients work places , it isnt an unusual practice at all i think it was just unfortunate timing by the sounds of it mate ..............

 

And trust if you didnt get a good refrence then im sure you wouldnt of got the new job , i know if an employer or old employer refused a reference i wouldnt employ them i know it sounds harsh but business is business

[X-pack-Glyn]

well, its a funny one really. my old boss took on a few of my mates and told them "ah Glyn, yes hes one of our best engineers"

 

yet a year later as soon as hes been called for a reference, yup, i got a bad one!

 

the new employer says "dont worry, we dont take too much notice anyway"

 

i mean FFS, the guys just found out im going to a competitor, hes hardly gona give me a good one.

 

Anyhow, whats done is done BUT as my new employer took the liberty (and what a fooking liberty to take eh) of getting a reference on me, i took the fooking liberty of getting a few on him of his past employees, ive also had someone phone up his company and get a reference in him from the top boss....

 

Sadly due to idiot management this job has gone completely sh1t shaped from the start but as such im in a position to have to take it, hopefully something on the way soon though, this time il be setting firmer ground rules on the interview.....

 

moral of the story, be carefull what boxes you tick folks!

[escortmad79]

By law a former employer can't give you a bad reference, they can refuse to give one but they can't give you a bad one

[mk3cokebottle]

By law a former employer can't give you a bad reference, they can refuse to give one but they can't give you a bad one

 

ask your new employer for the ref tick sheet comments form they fill out whilst on the phone and sue his arse mate a bad reference is as said above totally illeagal

[Vista]

By law a former employer can't give you a bad reference, they can refuse to give one but they can't give you a bad one

 

ask your new employer for the ref tick sheet comments form they fill out whilst on the phone and sue his arse mate a bad reference is as said above totally illeagal

 

Sorry guys you're both wrong, just consulted my solicitor (saves me a lot of money being married to her )

 

It's only illegal to give a bad reference if it isn't true. i.e. If Glyns ex employer has given him an undeserved bad reference to try and screw up his chances with a new employer then yes that's illegal (slander). But if (hypothetically speaking of course) Glyn was a bad time keeper, always off sick, poor work rate, etc etc etc then the old employer is pefectly within his rights to reveal those facts in a reference.

[BIG G]

we're all doomed

[X-pack-Glyn]

So was my new employer within his rights to seek a reference without my knowledge?

 

either way it dont matter as ive got another interview next week, so it will be costing him the £750 comision fee to his head hunter that contacted me, plus whatever i earn in the 2 week training period then im offski!

 

meybe these employers should think about the consequences to others before they jump the gun.

[Vista]

So was my new employer within his rights to seek a reference without my knowledge?

 

Can't really answer that one. If you signed one, it's often hidden in the small print of an employment contract.