mk1rob Posted June 19, 2008 Report Posted June 19, 2008 Hi. Been on an abandoned air strip this evenin to have some fun in my car. Im findin it really hard to get the back end out tho. Everytime i try, it just understeers or i end up driving round in circles nearly falling out my seat. Ive seen other people doing it and they make it look really easy. Can anyone give me some tips on how to do it? Any help would be much appreciated! Cheers
Copey Posted June 19, 2008 Report Posted June 19, 2008 gather a fair amount of speed, then drop down a gear
BIGKEV Posted June 19, 2008 Report Posted June 19, 2008 Snap the clutch - works a treat but dont snap it
emu Posted June 19, 2008 Report Posted June 19, 2008 Weld the diff up. Turn into the bend, Dip the clutch, bring up the revs then sidestep the clutch pedal. Steer into the slide and control it on the throttle I cant do it for any real distance either
rallyesport04 Posted June 19, 2008 Report Posted June 19, 2008 use some really crap tyres on the back snatch a gear hard or dip the clutch loads of revs an dump the clutch hard with a little flick an she will go sideways
X-pack-Glyn Posted June 19, 2008 Report Posted June 19, 2008 Sort the diff, Plate type LSD or a good welder... with an open diff its not much fun
rallyesport04 Posted June 19, 2008 Report Posted June 19, 2008 good point made slip diffs do propa hang...
DAZZA Posted June 20, 2008 Report Posted June 20, 2008 on an open diff like mine, wait till it rains , nearest round-a-bout, rolling approach, bags of revs, snap the clutch, hey presto........ Tiff Needel!
4parajon Posted June 20, 2008 Report Posted June 20, 2008 Does'nt really matter how much power you have, if you havent got an LSD, its not much fun.
DEP Posted June 20, 2008 Report Posted June 20, 2008 Tell me where this abandoned air strip is and i ll come and show you
sambo Posted June 20, 2008 Report Posted June 20, 2008 You need an LSD. full stop really, or a welded CWP. Just get one, cos it will be the best £400 you've ever spent!!
sitting_budda Posted June 20, 2008 Report Posted June 20, 2008 can this be done with an ATB or does it have to be a plate type lsd?
antz Posted June 20, 2008 Report Posted June 20, 2008 Does'nt really matter how much power you have, if you havent got an LSD, its not much fun. I only have a 1.3 but in the wet it really does hang and can be some good fun!....( not enough power to spin the wheels in the dry ) You need an LSD. full stop really, or a welded CWP. Just get one, cos it will be the best £400 you've ever spent!! i think a new LSD now is about £500 sambo and i remember you told me this exact same advice.....thought it was a lot of money then decideed to go for it...paid my money got my LSD....never looked back my drifting still sucks but im getting better It can be done with an ATB but they are a lot of money. I went with a plate lsd because it was cheaper and a good one came up at the right time, right price....plate types are clunky on the road and can be a bit harsh...Ive heard ATB ones are very smooth.
razersedge Posted June 20, 2008 Report Posted June 20, 2008 plate is the best type of lsd but they snatch when they get hot but that is a good thing on corner's. mine just drift's with no droping of the clutch just enter the roundabout slow and just push the accelerator and back off to hold it there i did 5 times round a roundabout with my mate in the car and he was craping himself but it was all at 15 mph moving speed and at 3000rpm in second
5hane Posted June 20, 2008 Report Posted June 20, 2008 Come arena essex sat 4pm+ just donttake anything too nice lol hope fully this time ill have ago and drift this time, last time my dad wanted to pull the handbrake but i thought/knew illd crash lol ok big edit lol : not this sat 18or 19 next month sorry rain is wicked for drifting lol, dads desil (sp) pickup drifts well no lsd and with a mixer in the back plate is the best type of lsd whats the diffrence? (drifting wise, i know ATB uses gears and LSD uses plates)
razersedge Posted June 20, 2008 Report Posted June 20, 2008 i've driven both and the plate handles better and is much more controlable and easier the atb lost handling on the road and just wasn't as easy. I've been sideways at over a ton with the plate and it didn't scare me but if it had been the atb i would have stopped it
billynogloves Posted June 20, 2008 Report Posted June 20, 2008 gonna be putting lsd in the back of my zetec anglia soon what do you look out for buying second hand does every 1 agree plate types best ?
Tom Posted June 20, 2008 Report Posted June 20, 2008 you can get sideways with an open diff but it is quite difficult - when your mid slide the power can transfer from one wheel to the other and this can unbalance the car a lot a put you into the wall, roundabout, oncoming etc. . but it is do able, go fast into the corner and turn late and hard giving a bit more throttle when you do. I don't like this dipping the clutch and raising the revs business as its not progressive. Like others have said, its best to get a linited slip diff mate or one with welded up planetary gears. But be careful witht the latter as they tend to push you through corners giving you major understeer, even at slow speeds. Stick with it though mate you'll get there
bmxdave Posted June 20, 2008 Report Posted June 20, 2008 but it is do able, go fast into the corner and turn late and hard giving a bit more throttle when you do. I don't like this dipping the clutch and raising the revs business as its not progressive. Thats why most people struggle to hold a slide. Kicking the clutch gets you sideways but sooner or later the car will grip or just spin. If you comer in wide and then tight with low revs in second and just boot it, it should be more then enough to get the arse end out. It works for me 6 out of 10 times with an open diff, itd work 10/10 if it was a slipper. The biggest difference between a plate lsd and an atb, apart from the contruction and method of locking, is that the atb never locks 100% and you can still end up spinning just one wheel. If your using it as a daily, an atb is ok but if your serious about skidding get a plate. You can weld your planet gears but it can create bad oversteer and itll make your car hop at low speeds. It does wear tyres quicker but i think its negligable.
Tom Posted June 20, 2008 Report Posted June 20, 2008 You can weld your planet gears but it can create bad oversteer and itll make your car hop at low speeds. It does wear tyres quicker but i think its negligable. understeer bud, oversteer is all good
bmxdave Posted June 20, 2008 Report Posted June 20, 2008 You can weld your planet gears but it can create bad oversteer and itll make your car hop at low speeds. It does wear tyres quicker but i think its negligable. understeer bud, oversteer is all good Shit..... Yes it makes for oversteer......... but only after youve sorted out 7 miles worth of understeer.
mk1rob Posted June 20, 2008 Author Report Posted June 20, 2008 This is great! Thanks for all the tips people! Ill look into gettin a LSD asap! Cheers
D4N Posted June 21, 2008 Report Posted June 21, 2008 If you think £400 is alot of money.. Just think of it this way. Its money in the bank, your not likley to loose money when you want to sell it asuming its still in good condition. Just go and buy a slippery diff and have some fun. After all thats what OSFs are about.
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