sambo Posted June 23, 2008 Report Posted June 23, 2008 I NEED to get my escort on the road this summer, i have the rollers booked for wednesday, a decent insurance quote and all i need is an MOT. Trouble is.................I have a bloody hydraulic handbrake!!! Apparently, for a test, it only needs to 'look' as though the cable is operating (as the tester cannot disconnect the hydraulic brake and test the cable one independantly). So, does anyone have any suggestions people? Pics would be a great help here too especially of the handbrake lever showing how the cable is attached. I may be able to bodge something up here with the brake pad pins or something...... (calipers are Brembo/porsche ones). After the summer i will deffo change my rear brake set-up!! Any help at all will be greatly appreciated.!
Gonzo Posted June 23, 2008 Report Posted June 23, 2008 Just as an idea, I know there's somewhere that do little mechanical calipers specifically for handbrakes [although where you'd get 'em from is beyond me] so when you come to do the rear brakes, you could get some brackets welded/bolted onto the axle to mount em on.
5hane Posted June 23, 2008 Report Posted June 23, 2008 rally design sell M16 calipers (4 pots) with a cable handbrke assembly, £120 each no idears about the haudralic handbrake tho, could always pay an extra £20 for them to 'forget it'
sambo Posted June 23, 2008 Author Report Posted June 23, 2008 no idears about the haudralic handbrake tho, could always pay an extra £20 for them to 'forget it' Lol!
escort21 Posted June 23, 2008 Report Posted June 23, 2008 Why not fit calipers with a cable operated handbrake now anyway....don't granny ones have them?
5hane Posted June 23, 2008 Report Posted June 23, 2008 ....don't granny ones have them? thats what i got
toad650 Posted June 23, 2008 Report Posted June 23, 2008 has it actually failed on it before? I changed mine to a hydrolic one the other year cos i couldn't get the cable set up proply so it only just worked on one caliper, that went through the MOT but i do know them in the test centre quite well, but if the brakes work on the rollers they may not even bother looking
sambo Posted June 23, 2008 Author Report Posted June 23, 2008 gotta be better than paying £240 ???? Mate, i meant i may have to blow him to pass it!!
sambo Posted June 23, 2008 Author Report Posted June 23, 2008 has it actually failed on it before? I changed mine to a hydrolic one the other year cos i couldn't get the cable set up proply so it only just worked on one caliper, that went through the MOT but i do know them in the test centre quite well, but if the brakes work on the rollers they may not even bother looking Trouble is, is that it is a waste of £50 if they do spot it and they bloody wel will!!
escort new boy Posted June 23, 2008 Report Posted June 23, 2008 get really chatty with the bloke, when he gets close to the handbrake show off some off the bits under your car or some thin like that
milky2971 Posted June 23, 2008 Report Posted June 23, 2008 Im sure Prepf*b do a cable addition kit that covers the cable/mechanical operation regulation sure it was £29 too.... hth Trev
X FLOW EDDY Posted June 23, 2008 Report Posted June 23, 2008 A mate of mine has 2 rally car pull cables that connect to the handbrake lever some how then when they get to the top of the pads he has drilled two small holes in the top of the pads and has the outer of the cable resting on the first pad then the inner bridges the gap between the 2 pads and goes through the hole in the outher with a solderless nipple to secure it. Beleve it or not he can JUST scrape through a mot if he disconects the hydraulic side of the handbrake, needless to say he doesnt when it comes to mot time !!! The car buy the way is a RWD puma with a n/a cossie lump and a jag 4ha back axle. Hope this helps. ( We have done 9 different stage rallys with this car and have never been pulled up in scrutineering either.)
surfingturnip Posted June 23, 2008 Report Posted June 23, 2008 sure I heard somewhere that as long as he handbrake is on a seperate fluid system to your brakes it'll pass, the idea being that if your brakes fail your handbrake doesn't or vice versa. Or I may be wrong, correct me if I am
toad650 Posted June 24, 2008 Report Posted June 24, 2008 sure I heard somewhere that as long as he handbrake is on a seperate fluid system to your brakes it'll pass, the idea being that if your brakes fail your handbrake doesn't or vice versa. Or I may be wrong, correct me if I am Yeah thats right but i don't really think you can have 2 fluid systems as you'll just be back feeding one when you put the other on and the rear brakes will never work hence needing a cable or 2 sets of calipers like really expensive sports cars have. Go upto the MOT place before n get chatting n ask them about if they'd pass it or not, if not start looking for a kit think i saw one in burton power, but then you need calipers with the handbrake cable bit, aslong as its there upto you if you set it up proply cos they can't disconect the hydrolics unless you can disconect the h/brake master cylinder from the handbrake, if so cover it up
cisco24uk Posted June 24, 2008 Report Posted June 24, 2008 Surely as long as the handbrake has a lock on it it should pass the guy who does our mot's is just having a look in the book..... hang on....... There is no specific listing for this but as long as the handbrake is in good condition, locks and is as efficient as the original handbrake it should be ok. But he suggests just ringing the mot place and asking the guy before you take it down there.
sambo Posted June 24, 2008 Author Report Posted June 24, 2008 Just had some awesome news! I called a local MOT station and basically to cut a long story short, he says that as long as there are no leaks and the handbrake operates on the rollers etc, etc, there is no reason to fail it!!!! Woohoo... i'll pop past him tomorrow on the way home from the rollers and double check with him but it all seems good. after the summer, i will change all the rear brakes anyway cos it is over braked at the back anyway. (anyone want to buy some 4 pot porsche calipers???, good for a front brake upgrade!???)
toad650 Posted June 24, 2008 Report Posted June 24, 2008 Wicked nothing to worry about makes me feel a bit better as i've just welded up the hole under the handbrake where the cable fits through
5hane Posted June 24, 2008 Report Posted June 24, 2008 anyone want to buy some 4 pot porsche calipers???, good for a front brake upgrade!??? how much and how easy are they to fit !!! and well done
Gonzo Posted June 24, 2008 Report Posted June 24, 2008 Just found this: http://www.zoomkarts.com/product.asp?productID=93 http://www.zoomkarts.com/product.asp?productID=107 It's a mechanical brake calliper. I'da said that's pretty much just what you're after, Sam. Get some mounts welded on for it and all's gravy.
sitting_budda Posted June 25, 2008 Report Posted June 25, 2008 Bad news Sambo.... http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_310.htm "Hydraulic parking brakes as a sole means of operation are not acceptable on vehicles first used on or after 1 January 1968. However, they may be used to assist the application or release of a mechanical brake."
toad650 Posted June 25, 2008 Report Posted June 25, 2008 But if the MOT man said he'd pass it take that ticket
sambo Posted June 25, 2008 Author Report Posted June 25, 2008 But if the MOT man said he'd pass it take that ticket Amen my brother!! just ran it down to him after the rollers and he looked at it and said.... "yup, no worries" !!!! Just got to order a number plate for the front and sort a rear number plate light and bobs your uncle, i'll be on the road!!
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