4 speed or 5speed

[bigdaz27]

im thinking i fitting a 4 speed gearbox in my mk1 escort ive been told the type 3 rs2000 box has a better gear ratio as i rarly go on the motorway or bypass i think it would be a lot beter to drive ive never drove a pinto engined escort with a 4 speed only 5 speed so what do you lot think the car has a 2.1 pinto and 3.54 dif

[mk1super]

If it was me i'd leave as is, ive a 4 speed behind my x flow and hate it run outa steam at a ton down a hill Change the diff to a 4.1 and leave the 5 speed in place

[D4N]

We have a 4 speed quaife in the escort, nowt wrong with it

[jamesmk1]

4 speed with a 3.54 in fine

[wild pete]

i think youll find the gear ratios in a rs 2000 4 speed are the same as a type 9 except 5th of course , unless you got a proper rocket box . so the only downside to a type 9 is the gearchange quality , id leave it in

[Savvi]

When i bought the van it was the 1st Escort that i'd driven with a 5 speed and tbh it's much better than a 4 speed on a 2.0 pinto.

 

 

I've been putting the estate back together tonight and i'm not sure whether to fit a 4 or 5 speed box behind the X/ flow as i've never tried it i have all parts needed for both ? i'll watch this space.

 

I'm also not decided which engine to fit, the one i showed you with the 40's or the standard Gt i got put away

All these decisions

[DAZZA]

My brother has a pinto, rocket box and 3.5:4 combines good back road messin and comfortable motorway 80-90mph

 

 

I have a pinto, 5 speed and a 4.1, starts screaming like a banshee about 65-70

 

Im therefore a great believer all in final drive choice.

[bortaf]

RS box is a type E aint it? which means as stated the first 4 gear ratios are exactly the same as a type 9 5 speed

[petrolhead]

Just out of interest if you have a car with a 5 speed with a 3.9 ratio and a car with a 4 speed and the RS 3.54 ratio then the overall final drive is the same to within 1% or so. I was sad enough to work it out

 

4speed is stronger, better ratios and nicer shifting box, although I am sure 5 speed could be improved with a quickshift.

[bigdaz27]

im glad most of you said about the shirt on the 5 speed its crap and ive got a rose jointed quick shift on it i think the only way im going no if its better is fitting a 4 speed and trying it for my self its not exackly a hard job is it ive got access to a work shop with a ramp. and savvi pu the xflow with the 40s in the estate if a jobs worth doing its worth doing right

[timmy4doors]

i had a 3.9 and 4speed was a great laugh

then i went 5 speed and a 4.1 the difference isnt that much but its nice to have an extra gear,but if ure talking not much motorway 4 speed all day long

[aden]

rs 2000 boxes and type 9 boxes do not have the same ratios, the rs box has close ratios and type 9s are out of shopping cars, the only type 9 worth having is a 2.8 box which has the same ratios as rs 2000 box but with a 5th gear, need to shorten the input shaft to fit a pinto but that aint difficult

[wild pete]

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disagree there the standard rs2000 4speed is the same the only one that was close ratio was the 2000e box or rs1800 box , its a common misconception that the rs box had better ratio than type 9

[Trevmk3]

ive got a 2litre pinto with a 4 speed box in the cortina, not sure what the final drive is but it isnt too bad, nice acceleration and can cope with motorways nicely (not that i do motorway miles in it )

[bomber1]

it also depends on what tyre size you have. 185/60 13s will give you better cruising speed than 175/50/13. my escort will be running 2.1 pinto sierra 5speed 3.54 and 185/60s then if im on a short strech of road you just leave it in 4th for the scream! btw when mine was x-flow (1600) the 5th gear seemed a bit lame as you were always changing down on hills on the motorway imo