David Cameron

[DEP]

Is now our new Prime Minister

[autonet7]

Blah, blah, blah.

 

Same ol' shit, differrent name.

 

It won't make any difference I'm sure. History has proved that.

 

Oh so cynical.................yup.

[GJUK]

Good.

[RossMK2]

i cant stand him to be fair

[Pipster007]

Oh cock!!!!!!

[Guest cortinamad-gonetoo]

wonder whats happens next will we get rolling 25 year free car tax

[GJUK]

wonder whats happens next will we get rolling 25 year free car tax

 

Considering the current state of the UK's wallet. I'd say that won't happen in any time soon/ever.

[ZetecVan 2.0]

Whoever is going to be in charge over the next 12 months will have a shit job to do to get the country back on track. They will be hated by loads of people for cuts they're going to have to put in place, so come the next election, unless they have turned it around, they won't be getting back in. If you look back at 1974, the coalition didn't last a year and they were back in the polling booths 8 months after the last one.

 

If you want to know the future, look to the past.

[Nicks53]

'He who forgets history is doomed (or condemned) to repeat it' - George Santayana.

 

Remember what happened last time the Conservatives were in power...?

 

 

 

I can't wait to see what they can do this time.

[pauln]

Well good luck to him. He's got Clegg on his left and the Tory old guard on the right. I hope he does better than I think he's going to. With a vindictive press and an intolerant electorate I don't think many would want his new job.

[banarama]

[Mr.Sumo]

I thought this was a pretty tolerant country i was born and been brought up in.....but it really does get on my tits when all i ever seem to read is how shite Cameron is gonna be , how the Tories ( alledgedly ) fooked the country up last time they where in power...blah blah blah........the UK was fooked after the last Labour Gov"t where in power , oh look , its the same again !!

 

Gordon Brown was an UNELECTED Prime Minister who completey fooked this country , has left us in a worse financial state than GREECE ( that part is unofficial , but has been quoted by EU banker persons ....) ....

 

He made this country a nation of spongers and "can"t be fooked to go to work w******* , cos i get more on the Dole " tossers......

 

Sent our Army and RAF to fight in wars in Iraq ( twice ) and Afghanistan that have /had fook all to do with us ( its all about black gold ya know )....and then had the bollox to blatently lie about Defence cost etc to the inquiry

 

Sold our Gold reserves for a bottle of IrunBru ....

 

And then during the election campaign calls a Widowed old dear a Bigot because she dared to ask the questions every decent person of this Country wanted to ask

 

Why not for once , can"t people of this Country give Cameron a chance.....lets be honest here , it can"t get any fookin worse !!!!!

 

Rant over

[GJUK]

I agree.

 

...I think the huge amount of people who currently sit at home and do fook all, all day long will have a shock in around 3-6 months time.

 

Well, thats what I hope anyway.

[Vista]

I thought this was a pretty tolerant country i was born and been brought up in.....but it really does get on my tits when all i ever seem to read is how shite Cameron is gonna be , how the Tories ( alledgedly ) fooked the country up last time they where in power...blah blah blah........the UK was fooked after the last Labour Gov"t where in power , oh look , its the same again !!

 

Gordon Brown was an UNELECTED Prime Minister who completey fooked this country , has left us in a worse financial state than GREECE ( that part is unofficial , but has been quoted by EU banker persons ....) ....

 

He made this country a nation of spongers and "can"t be fooked to go to work w******* , cos i get more on the Dole " tossers......

 

Sent our Army and RAF to fight in wars in Iraq ( twice ) and Afghanistan that have /had fook all to do with us ( its all about black gold ya know )....and then had the bollox to blatently lie about Defence cost etc to the inquiry

 

Sold our Gold reserves for a bottle of IrunBru ....

 

And then during the election campaign calls a Widowed old dear a Bigot because she dared to ask the questions every decent person of this Country wanted to ask

 

Why not for once , can"t people of this Country give Cameron a chance.....lets be honest here , it can"t get any fookin worse !!!!!

 

Rant over

 

I'm with you Sumo, the Tories fooked the country soooo badly last time they were in power we kept re-electing them for 18 years! Then beginning in 1997 Labour took very little time to flush all the wealth and prosperity back down the pan.

 

In any case, what the Tories did last time bears no relevance to what they have to do now, different people, different policies and a different set of problems to fix (albeit caused by the same opposing party).

 

What I do think though is that getting us out of the mess they've been left is going to be just as painful for us as it's going to be for Greece. And once again the Conservative party will have to take the blame for the pain caused by someone else's folly.

[GJUK]

On a lighter note, my boxer bitch is expecting puppies next Tuesday

[Nicks53]

I'd like to know, more than just based upon someone's say-so how Gordon Brown, who's been in No. 10 for less than 2 years...

 

'made this country a nation of spongers'

 

'Sent our Army and RAF to fight in wars in Iraq ( twice)'

 

'called an old dear a bigot'

 

Firstly, for more than 2 years there have been spongers in the country and if it's a problem that Thatcher and her mob were trying to clear up and blaming the mess of the country on single mums, I can't see how that's the fault of either group.

 

Secondly, it was Blair and not Brown who got the UK involved in the 2nd Iraq war and that in Afghanistan and the first was in 1994 when surprisingly, you were under the conservatives.

 

As for the bigot response, he didn't pull his pants down, leap onto the car and scream it, he's entitled to his own opinions just as you or I are, that was an underhand move by whoever it was that released it to the public and if you all want to know WHY the country is being infested with immigrants from Europe, it's because you're members of the EU. That's why. All member states must agree to a free flow of trade and a free flow of people to join. The answer isn't to play this blame game but to realise that the EU is not the safe haven it's made out to be.

 

You've got the freedom to support Cameron, it's not being disrespectful to oppose him though; you sound a bit like a bloody American coming out with that tripe, next will you be telling us it's unpatriotic to criticise anything our country does?

[Guest cortinamad-gonetoo]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... claims-179

 

two down falls that spring to mind straight away

 

how can david cameron get people to work, whilst buissness are going bust and laying people off due to a recession

 

i think we are the only country that lets foreigners in and alot of jobs in england are taken by foreigners

 

also by cutting peoples benifits £25 a week WILL increase crime thats so obvious?

 

i dont know the crime figures but ive heard people say crimes increased because of the recession

[Mr.Sumo]

Nicks53 : I'd like to know, more than just based upon someone's say-so how Gordon Brown, who's been in No. 10 for less than 2 years...

 

'made this country a nation of spongers'

 

'Sent our Army and RAF to fight in wars in Iraq ( twice)'

 

'called an old dear a bigot'

 

Firstly, for more than 2 years there have been spongers in the country and if it's a problem that Thatcher and her mob were trying to clear up and blaming the mess of the country on single mums, I can't see how that's the fault of either group.

 

Mr.Sumo : I didn"t say it was anyone in particulars fault for becoming a nation of spongers...Con or Lab , makes no odds...the fact is this Country has become a Nation of spongers . The way the system works sucks ! Defend the fact that as a working married man , a working Wife and with 3 kids as i am , why it is better for me and the Wife to split up , both quit work ....we would be entitled to receive MORE in benefits , no Council rent / minimal Council Tax to pay , free school dinners etc etc , than i would if we where both in full time employment

 

Secondly, it was Blair and not Brown who got the UK involved in the 2nd Iraq war and that in Afghanistan and the first was in 1994 when surprisingly, you were under the conservatives.

 

Mr.Sumo : Sorry , but the 1st Gulf War was engaged due to Iraq invading Kuwait , and we ( the UK ) where asked for assitance by the Kuwiatis who are an allie of the UK within the Middle East .

 

As for the bigot response, he didn't pull his pants down, leap onto the car and scream it, he's entitled to his own opinions just as you or I are, that was an underhand move by whoever it was that released it to the public and if you all want to know WHY the country is being infested with immigrants from Europe, it's because you're members of the EU. That's why. All member states must agree to a free flow of trade and a free flow of people to join. The answer isn't to play this blame game but to realise that the EU is not the safe haven it's made out to be.

 

Mr.Sumo: Maybe , but PM or not , underhanded or not , what GB said was bang out of order and in the position he was in , he should have known bloody better . But then again , he just showed his true colours IMHO

 

You've got the freedom to support Cameron, it's not being disrespectful to oppose him though; you sound a bit like a bloody American coming out with that tripe, next will you be telling us it's unpatriotic to criticise anything our country does?

 

Mr.Sumo : Thats right , we live in a democracy and i DO have the freedom of speech .

I"ll take a lot of shite in my life , you can call me whatever you like , but don"t ever question my Loyalty as an Englishmen . As for making reference to me sounding , and i quote " like a bloody American " , wrong . very wrong . I wouldn"t tell anyone its " unpatriotic " to criticise anything our country does....but i will call a spade a spade , and if i feel the need to disagree with something / anything this Country of ours does i will .

 

[Guest cortinamad-gonetoo]

Mr.Sumo : I didn"t say it was anyone in particulars fault for becoming a nation of spongers...Con or Lab , makes no odds...the fact is this Country has become a Nation of spongers . The way the system works sucks ! Defend the fact that as a working married man , a working Wife and with 3 kids as i am , why it is better for me and the Wife to split up , both quit work ....we would be entitled to receive MORE in benefits , no Council rent / minimal Council Tax to pay , free school dinners etc etc , than i would if we where both in full time employment

 

 

it depends on the wage you bring in

 

i know children that get free school diners with both parents in work

 

also dont be fooled that you would get full rent benifit (now called local housing allowance) it only works that way if youre in a council house or housing assosiation that goes through the council

 

there is set figures for different areas depending on what house you would need

 

ie you could live in a one bedroomed flat with 2 children you would get a the set rate for a 2 bedroomed house((because thats the type of property you need to live in comfortably) (doesnt matter what your rent is on your flat that doesnt come into it))

 

for example hull get £361 every four weeks for a 2 bedroomed house

york gets £552 for exactally the same size house and familly

 

i know this because where i live (halfway between hull and york) our town got split in half so some were getting more benifit than others due to their postcode

 

they have just recently put us all under hull and made the border go round our town so we are all equal

[SmokeEm]

All I know is that under any government whatsoever, I will get progressively poorer coz they're all in it for themselves.

 

Rant over

[Stu_B]

Agreed! They'll all help themselves before anybody else

 

You shouldn't be allowed to become an MP through choice, it should be like jury duty

[Nicks53]

Mr.Sumo : I didn"t say it was anyone in particulars fault for becoming a nation of spongers...Con or Lab , makes no odds...the fact is this Country has become a Nation of spongers . The way the system works sucks ! Defend the fact that as a working married man , a working Wife and with 3 kids as i am , why it is better for me and the Wife to split up , both quit work ....we would be entitled to receive MORE in benefits , no Council rent / minimal Council Tax to pay , free school dinners etc etc , than i would if we where both in full time employment

 

The only way to defend that is that it's there to support people that find themselves in that unfortunate circumstance, I'm sure it does actually happen to people by no fault of their own.

 

The problem is people that abuse that, I don't agree with that whatsoever and as someone that spends most of the day studying and then works till 10/11pm I cannot stand that people abuse the system in that way but then how do we help those that need it, if not through this system? I dunno, sometimes you just want to give up on this shite.

[gjh]

Don't like him, too much of a smart arse

[Guest cortinamad-gonetoo]

Mr.Sumo : I didn"t say it was anyone in particulars fault for becoming a nation of spongers...Con or Lab , makes no odds...the fact is this Country has become a Nation of spongers . The way the system works sucks ! Defend the fact that as a working married man , a working Wife and with 3 kids as i am , why it is better for me and the Wife to split up , both quit work ....we would be entitled to receive MORE in benefits , no Council rent / minimal Council Tax to pay , free school dinners etc etc , than i would if we where both in full time employment

 

The only way to defend that is that it's there to support people that find themselves in that unfortunate circumstance, I'm sure it does actually happen to people by no fault of their own.

 

The problem is people that abuse that, I don't agree with that whatsoever and as someone that spends most of the day studying and then works till 10/11pm I cannot stand that people abuse the system in that way but then how do we help those that need it, if not through this system? I dunno, sometimes you just want to give up on this shite.

 

that sounds a much better way of putting it

 

i agree with you the way youve said it there

[Mr Sam]

check them in the 'rose garden' pompus twats nothing will change!! apparently Blair is on 20 million a year, and Brown will doubt be the same....