Car tax on the daily ...

[Vista]

£500 on an XJ8 is like 3 or 4 tanks of fuel spread over year.... you really believe people cant/wont pay that? I am not sure I agree.

 

S

It's not just couldn't, many simply wouldn't. Old XJs plummet in value when they're no longer shiny and pristine, would you be prepared to fork out an extra £500 per year in RFL for an 8k 2007 XJ8? I sure as hell wouldn't.

[skeeter]

If it was for a car I wanted then the difference in VED wouldn't put me off , for example,  do you stop buying 4 new tyres for £500 because the car is old - would that stop you buying and running it?

 

My point is, in the overall scheme of running any car a VED of £500 per year (£10 per week) is inconsequential compared to the other costs of ownership.

 

But then, I also appreciate that other people are entitled to their own views too.

 

S

[SmokeEm]

^^^ Fella, it would appear that we maybe on different spectrum. Paying £500 for four tyres is not reality for most people. £200 I paid recently for the daily's tyres. That hurt. If a brand new tyre costs more than £50 then me and my Wife are way out of our depth. You have obviously been very successful in what you do, as have many on here, including Vista. Most on here however can only dream of getting to what u have achieved.

[Vista]

If it was for a car I wanted then the difference in VED wouldn't put me off , for example,  do you stop buying 4 new tyres for £500 because the car is old - would that stop you buying and running it?

 

My point is, in the overall scheme of running any car a VED of £500 per year (£10 per week) is inconsequential compared to the other costs of ownership.

 

But then, I also appreciate that other people are entitled to their own views too.

 

S

A good quality Tyre for my daily costs around £200 each, but I pay that because I have to to own the car I wanted. I don't have to buy a car that costs £500 a year to tax though as there others that I'll enjoy just as much but won't put an extra £300 in to George Osborne's coffers.

[skeeter]

Hey SmokEm I didn't mean my reply to sound like anything critical around personal affordability and the like, and I appreciate that everybody has different personal circumstances and priorities.

 

Vista, I understand your point of view, but to me that sounds like cutting your nose off to spite your face all for £300 per year..... each to their own

 

S

[SmokeEm]

Hey SmokEm I didn't mean my reply to sound like anything critical around personal affordability and the like, and I appreciate that everybody has different personal circumstances and priorities.

 

Vista, I understand your point of view, but to me that sounds like cutting your nose off to spite your face all for £300 per year..... each to their own

 

S

Don't worry mate, I knew you meant no malice at all.

[Vista]

Vista, I understand your point of view, but to me that sounds like cutting your nose off to spite your face all for £300 per year..... each to their own

 

S

Not really, it's all about planning. I would plan it so I got the car I wanted, but without the punitive VED. Either by buying one from just before the 2006 VWD change. Or a later one that the manufacturer had improved the CO2 figures on.

[irishtorag]

twould be a whole lot more sense  to pay tax on fuel that way those that drive more pay more

etc etc  

[Vista]

twould be a whole lot more sense  to pay tax on fuel that way those that drive more pay more

etc etc

 

Part of me agrees...............but we already pay a huge amount of tax on fuel in the UK, plus we would lose all visibility of what element of the fuel cost is duty, what is VAT and what is VED

[irishtorag]

I also agree in some what with u but if the work out for every litre you pay say 2p road tax or even 1p then its easier to work out the future costs on mileage etc

 

same as its easy raise money for hospitals by putting 2p on every txt msg

that would creat an nhs worth having

 

just my opinion

[Vista]

You'll have all of us with tax exempt historic vehicles paying VED again!

[irishtorag]

I understand the concern reguarding that but for the little time they are used it would probably cost 20 or 30 pound a year

 

On the plus side your daily (if you wernt a high miler) would also be less per year and it would hurt no ones pocket as its at the pump and not bi annual .

 

The other plus is everyone would pay so no more road tax dodgers

[DT36]

Part of me agrees...............but we already pay a huge amount of tax on fuel in the UK, plus we would lose all visibility of what element of the fuel cost is duty, what is VAT and what is VED

 

Slightly on a tangent, but I have a 2.7L Hi-Lux as my daily in Dubai. I don't pay the fuel personally, but it costs roughly 13 quid to fill it from empty to full.

 

I have no vehicle tax as such, but have a SALIK Tag in my window. Major highways have the odd toll on them, so you pay on where you drive in the city.

 

I'm home in the Uk  at the moment and it cost me 40 odd quid yesterday to fill my Bettys Corsa up, which is a 1L Eco.