New insurance law

[johnny_h]

So from next year if you don't insure a car you own plod can come round and take it off you whether you drive it or not? Fookin bobbins! My mex is garaged and insured just for building up my no claims but my new fiesta is going to be off the road while I work on it. Do I have to insure it?

[john_3.0s]

Are you sure mate? or just internet cobblers?

[RedditchJay]

my Mexico is insured 24/7 x 365 BUT on my classic policy there IS NO NO CLAIMS build up. It is just an annual Classic car policy for 3000 miles per year, fully comp £120.00.

 

Jay

[Rick]

So from next year if you don't insure a car you own plod can come round and take it off you whether you drive it or not? Fookin bobbins! My mex is garaged and insured just for building up my no claims but my new fiesta is going to be off the road while I work on it. Do I have to insure it?

 

that wouldnt suprise me at all.

 

we shud all ride bicycles for a week in protest and watch the country come to a stand still while ppl are travelling

[sab6024]

I heard this on the radio earlier. I don't know how they can police it, surely they would have to prove it's being used before they cart it away. If it's clearly being restored and unroadworthy surely it can't be driven. So not being a problem on the road.

 

Both my cars are insured all year round. Neither are on Classic Policy though. Might put my Capri on Classic later this year

[john_3.0s]

I imagine it would be a step towards forcing ppl to tax every car they own all year round.

 

Obviously you cant tax your car if its not insured, but if it was a legal obligation to insure it then there would be no exucse (in the eyes of the law) not to tax it. If this was the case then it could be policed from the DVLA records like they do now for SORN fines etc.

 

Or am I just paranoid?

[Gareth]

Its all a load of balls IMO

 

Governments a bunch of c*nts that need lynching.

[john_3.0s]

Its all a load of balls IMO

 

Governments a bunch of c*nts that need lynching.

 

I dont disagree mate, BUT i dont think that line of defence would wash in court for non payment of tax / insurance on your project car(s).

 

The sad thing is I could imaging this kind of legislation being implimented these days.

[tazrocks88]

its a load of crap how could they force u to insure a car its like u dont have 2 insure ur house so y should u have 2 insure ur car if its not on the road? if they did it would they not have 2 find the cars first all my dads cars and mine are else where so how can they take um if they cant find um

[Mk2Jo]

Are you sure that it's only if you don't SORN it

[john_3.0s]

its a load of crap how could they force u to insure a car its like u dont have 2 insure ur house so y should u have 2 insure ur car if its not on the road? if they did it would they not have 2 find the cars first all my dads cars and mine are else where so how can they take um if they cant find um

 

they would not have to find them mate, assuming the log books are in your name then you would just get a letter through the post.

[Rick]

perhaps its referring to untaxed cars that are parked on the road.

 

ie : if sum1 crashed into it, its insured??

[Retromotorsport]

If its in your garage and the contents of that garage is insured then the cars insured .. for loss or third party damages

[Jimbob-Squarepants ©]

I did wonder when the time would come. I read about these idea's in Practical Classics about 15 years ago. They did run a petition for a while to try and stop it... which they succeeded, but they did say it was "Stopped For Now".

 

Personally I think it is a blatent liberty to be honest. WTF is the point in insuring a vehicle if it isn't being kept/driven on a public road. I said similar things when they bought in the SORN declarations, it is just another way for them to find out what you are up to.

 

If the vehicle is on your own private land, then they should not have the authority to tell you what or what not to do. I will be buggered if I will cough up. I am lucky enough to have space for up to 5 cars at the end of my garden which is seperated by a PRIVATE drive from the public highway.

 

As usual though, no-one will stand up to these f*****g ar***oles, so they will keep getting away with telling us what to do. Once again, MOTORIST = EASY TARGET.

 

They can see if a vehicle is taxed, MoT'd & insured by looking it up on a poxy computer, so what is wrong with doing what they already do... which is, the DVLA coming round, looking for un-licenced cars and clamping them. All they will need to do is run a check on insurance, and if it found to be un-insured, tow it away. That, I am all for, because there are sh*t loads of un-insured, un-taxed cars around my parts. It doesn't stop there either, I think the vast majority of retards that have these cars have no licences either. Why???? Because Greenwich council like to house Immigrants, Junkies and any other forms of life who refuse to play by the rules.

 

Sorry for this, but it really p**ses me off seeing these duff spunks getting away with all of this when I have to abide by the law and have to fork out my own money hand over fist to stay within it!!!

[flyingbanana]

so i did hear right then.....surly if they took it off your property it would be classed has theft.....and then if its some where else ie in a garage not at home and can they take it .....they should all be shot

[Rick]

as you say mate.

 

its gonna keep on until people stand up to it.

 

we british are famous for not defending our own rights.

 

were shafted left right and center and the whole world knows it

[johnny_h]

'any uninsured vehicle will be classed as illegal and the police have the right to tow it away' This is to clamp down on uninsured low lives mentioned before by Jimbob.

[MK5]

i have a simple solution...

 

i'm going to start up my own insurance company...

 

you pay me 1p to insure your project car and its insured!!

 

(i bet its not easy to start up an insurance company.... )

[Daggle]

As a wise old man once said Chill WINSTON!!

 

Blimey you lot don't arf get ya knickers in a twist don't ya,

 

The truth of the matter is as follows.....

 

The law at the moment is that every motor vehicle or mechanically propelled vehicle has to have insurance, if it is on a road...

 

So what is a motor vehicle or mechanically propelled vehicle??

 

Motor Vehicle = Anything designed to be on a road... ie lights, horn etc, etc

Mechanically Propelled Vehicle = Anything that has motive power that can be readily applied or re-applied and isnt a motor vehicle... ie: Quad Bike, electric scooter,

 

So What is a road???

 

Now the definition of a road is basically any place to which the public have access whether by right or virtue, now for most of us a road would not be our driveways, garages, as hte publice don't have access, so don't worry that you will get done for having your cars with no insurance on your driveways, coz it can't happen....

 

So if you have a car on the road then you need insurance, unless its not a motor vehicle, or mechanically powered, BUT you must not be able to readily put the power back in, so taking the engine out isn't enough, you must then weld in bars to stop the engine being easily put back in.....

 

Thats the law now, ITS NOT GOING TO BE ANY DIFFERENT......

[Mr.Sumo]

As a wise old man once said Chill WINSTON!!

 

Blimey you lot don't arf get ya knickers in a twist don't ya,

 

The truth of the matter is as follows.....

 

The law at the moment is that every motor vehicle or mechanically propelled vehicle has to have insurance, if it is on a road...

 

So what is a motor vehicle or mechanically propelled vehicle??

 

Motor Vehicle = Anything designed to be on a road... ie lights, horn etc, etc

Mechanically Propelled Vehicle = Anything that has motive power that can be readily applied or re-applied and isnt a motor vehicle... ie: Quad Bike, electric scooter,

 

So What is a road???

 

Now the definition of a road is basically any place to which the public have access whether by right or virtue, now for most of us a road would not be our driveways, garages, as hte publice don't have access, so don't worry that you will get done for having your cars with no insurance on your driveways, coz it can't happen....

 

So if you have a car on the road then you need insurance, unless its not a motor vehicle, or mechanically powered, BUT you must not be able to readily put the power back in, so taking the engine out isn't enough, you must then weld in bars to stop the engine being easily put back in.....

 

Thats the law now, ITS NOT GOING TO BE ANY DIFFERENT......

 

i was just going to ask that bit....so if i get a project car that has no engine in it and park it out on the road ..BUT put bars across the engine bay so the engine cannot go in easily , its not classed as a motorised vehicle ......i"m legal ...yes ??

[prefectopop]

Ok here's another angle. How many people have had their OSF's bashed bin the last year? How many have been hit by uninsured drivers? Surely we should be grateful that the governement is taking steps towards protecting us against these pricks.

 

If your car is off the road while you're working on it, surely its wise to take out insurance so if it gets stolen/vandalised/damaged in any other way at least you will get something back rather than losing out totally.

 

I say before we all get on our soap boxes we should stop and look into insurances for cars off the road (they are available), and pose the question - shouldn't we be encouraging the government with these plans to help put a stop to all the heartache uninsured drivers cause us? We can go around saying lets shoot the bastards but its not going to happen. Maybe this is the next best thing...

[johnny_h]

less than 30 mins ago I saw a jap crap car being driven by some "eastern europeans" go around a tight corner and scrape the fook out of a parked mondeo colour coded bumper. They didnt stop and just smiled at me as they went past. OK so it was only a mondeo but still.... I guess this new law might combat arseholes like that driving around.

[MK II Mark]

Having listened to the radio this afternoon, I interpreted this piece of proposed legislation as follows: That the police can impound any vehicle that is being used without insurance on a road, so I think its to stop people from driving their car after being stopped by the police if they cannot provide valid insurance details that is corroborated by the police national computer.

 

Thats how I understood it.

[Daggle]

Having listened to the radio this afternoon, I interpreted this piece of proposed legislation as follows: That the police can impound any vehicle that is being used without insurance on a road, so I think its to stop people from driving their car after being stopped by the police if they cannot provide valid insurance details that is corroborated by the police national computer.

 

Thats how I understood it.

 

Sounds about right mate

[Jimbob-Squarepants ©]

Having listened to the radio this afternoon, I interpreted this piece of proposed legislation as follows: That the police can impound any vehicle that is being used without insurance on a road, so I think its to stop people from driving their car after being stopped by the police if they cannot provide valid insurance details that is corroborated by the police national computer.

 

Thats how I understood it.

 

That is correct, but the Police already have this power. If they stop a vehicle that isn't insured, they can impound it. Good Idea??? Well, it is & it isn't. I have to say, I don't know if this has been addressed yet, but what was happening is this:

 

Chap get's pulled for no insurance, car is impounded. Now, to get this car released, said chap has to provide valid insurance, but what was happening, and probably still happens, this chap goes to his mate who is insured to drive any car, and says, can you get my motor out??? O.k, his mate says, wanders off to the pound, produces a cover note to say he can drive any car, and goes home in it.

 

Where is the logic in that????