johnny_h Posted November 9, 2007 Report Posted November 9, 2007 ...of a properly ported and polished x-flow head? A burton stage 3 or a vulcan jobbie?
Toby Posted November 9, 2007 Report Posted November 9, 2007 This will be interesting!! Good post Johnnyh
oliwally Posted November 9, 2007 Report Posted November 9, 2007 There's no such thing as "stage" with head work,it all needs matching to lift your cam achieves and size of valves. Stage # is only a gimmic designed to lighten your wallet. I'd say none if they dont ask about what cam/exhaust/carbs and intended use.
fiesta_dan Posted November 9, 2007 Report Posted November 9, 2007 ask harris horse power coz hes got a vulcan head. i have got pics of mine yet
Toby Posted November 9, 2007 Report Posted November 9, 2007 Yes but.... As a guide you could say Stage 1 Ported maybe bigger inlet Stage 2 Ported more, bigger I & E Valves Stage 3 Ported even more, even bigger Valves Stage 4 Biggest mo fo valves, ports And then pick the one that suits your cam / driving!
johnny_h Posted November 9, 2007 Author Report Posted November 9, 2007 Yes Toby, in the Burtons catalogue the "stage's" correspond with the size of valve fitted normaly. The bigger the valve the higher the stage. No takers yet?
Mr Sam Posted November 9, 2007 Report Posted November 9, 2007 i was going to ask this, doubt many pro builders will share thier secrets though still anyone with one of thier engines can pop the manifold off and have a looksie
Mr Sam Posted November 9, 2007 Report Posted November 9, 2007 http://www.oldskoolford.co.uk/phpBB2/vi ... 764#634764 check here mate
Guest MK1gaz Posted November 9, 2007 Report Posted November 9, 2007 i spoke to these guys at the autosport show . Go to www.cncheads.co.uk for lots of nice heads with pictures
Fiesta Steve Posted November 9, 2007 Report Posted November 9, 2007 Only pics of valve throat area, taken about 3 years ago before fitting. The valves are 41.3mm & 34.9mm Could possible get pictures of the ports another day, but thats all I got saved on the computer.
Toby Posted November 10, 2007 Report Posted November 10, 2007 i spoke to these guys at the autosport show . Go to www.cncheads.co.uk for lots of nice heads with pictures These I like
Guest MK1gaz Posted November 10, 2007 Report Posted November 10, 2007 i spoke to these guys at the autosport show . Go to www.cncheads.co.uk for lots of nice heads with pictures These I like They are the bollox . Check out the flow chart on the big valve atmo YB head
johnny_h Posted November 10, 2007 Author Report Posted November 10, 2007 Cheers guys. will study these and get my dremel out later
johnny_h Posted November 10, 2007 Author Report Posted November 10, 2007 Awesome! Robbed from http://www.cncheads.co.uk/ford_crossflow.html Some quality work there! I'm still gonna have a pop myself. Fiesta Steve, what type of grinding attatchments did you use, any special material, any tips? CheeeRS
Toby Posted November 10, 2007 Report Posted November 10, 2007 If you look really closely they look like venturi throats. It supposed to speed the air up through the seat. It might be easier and certainly more common to just come straight up the throat to the seat. No reason at ll why you cant have a go. 2 tips. 1/ You can gring it off but you can't grind it on! 2/ The area around the valve throat, within an inch of the valve, for a fast road engine is the most important. Make the short turn radius as smooth as possble. If you post pictures we'll know your happy with the end result!
johnny_h Posted November 10, 2007 Author Report Posted November 10, 2007 Cheers Toby, Fingers crossed eh?
Rick Posted November 10, 2007 Report Posted November 10, 2007 crikey must take some serious work to get like that.
Toby Posted November 10, 2007 Report Posted November 10, 2007 crikey must take some serious work to get like that. They do!! They seem reasonably priced given the work gone into them!
Fiesta Steve Posted November 10, 2007 Report Posted November 10, 2007 Thats how I bought it off ebay m8, if you look you can still see the soot in the exhaust ports
johnny_h Posted November 10, 2007 Author Report Posted November 10, 2007 I can see this is gonna take a fair few grinding balls! I made a start.... Before: After: Before: After: I haven't removed a lot of metal coz I'm shit scared of opening a water jacket.
Fiesta Steve Posted November 10, 2007 Report Posted November 10, 2007 Don't worry to much m8, you can remove alot before hitting water, correct size/shape is important. If you've removed the guide boss you will be needing some new guides fitted.
Toby Posted November 10, 2007 Report Posted November 10, 2007 Very unlikely to hit water - more out of the port please!
johnny_h Posted November 10, 2007 Author Report Posted November 10, 2007 I'm going to get it converted to unleaded with new bronze guides. I'm open to suggestions to where to get this done as I hear if it's not done properly the seats can fall out or even crack the head. I have had one quote so far from Newark engines for £200 + vat. I'll keep at the ports Toby
ocean wasp Posted November 10, 2007 Report Posted November 10, 2007 I'm going to get it converted to unleaded with new bronze guides. I'm open to suggestions to where to get this done as I hear if it's not done properly the seats can fall out or even crack the head. I have had one quote so far from Newark engines for £200 + vat. I'll keep at the ports Toby W. Drake in Bradford did my old X-flow head for me. Just looked at the invoice and it cost £155 +vat. That got me the unleaded seats, all the valves re-seated and a full set of valve guide sleeves. Just depends where in the country you are, as postage on the head won't be cheap.
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