Santa Pod today 18/5/08

[Guest MK1gaz]

Anyone go today then ? I know Toby and a few of the local lads went up for some action . Rumour has it that he new super lightweight duratec escort estate went up and run 11.7 secs and sounded spot on reving to 9000+ revs . Anyone see it then and get any pics ?

[kevmk2]

I didnt go mate, thats good if Dave got that escort done that quick and thats flying too

[Guest MK1gaz]

It sounded fooooooking mental according to the reports and looks very trick . WE NEED SOME PICCYS

[kevmk2]

Must be the old ladder bar rear end doing its stuff, now get it on a track and watch the back wheel come off the floor

[Guest MK1gaz]

[Guest]

Could this finally be the nail in the pintos coffin ?

 

Is this the car that will finally shut MkI Gaz up ?

 

OR

 

Will he have a whole host of excuses to do with the amount of money spent ? motorbike calipers ? kevlar doors ?

 

Roll on the classic ford show !!

[Mr.Sumo]

Could this finally be the nail in the pintos coffin ?

 

Is this the car that will finally shut MkI Gaz up ?

 

OR

 

Will he have a whole host of excuses to do with the amount of money spent ? motorbike calipers ? kevlar doors ?

 

Roll on the classic ford show !!

 

[ratman]

Could this finally be the nail in the pintos coffin ?

 

Is this the car that will finally shut MkI Gaz up ?

 

OR

 

Will he have a whole host of excuses to do with the amount of money spent ? motorbike calipers ? kevlar doors ?

 

Roll on the classic ford show !!

 

Awaits answer

[Retromotorsport]

Must be the old ladder bar rear end doing its stuff, now get it on a track and watch the back wheel come off the floor

 

Kev, hes not using ladders ... he has traction bars.. its a bar that works a cam, as the spring winds up, the bar raises, and then through the pivot pushes another bar back down on the spring, so cancelling the wind up that causes tramp. been used in the states for eons, in the class's where no chassis mods are allowed, or on road cars, because you can set it back to normal just by removing the top pin.

 

 

They are better than ' slapper bars' but not as good as a ladder bar and coil-over set up, but then a proper 4 link is better than a ladder bar set up as you can have the best of both worlds.

[Jeff HPE Motorsport]

Could this finally be the nail in the pintos coffin ?

 

Is this the car that will finally shut MkI Gaz up ?

 

OR

 

Will he have a whole host of excuses to do with the amount of money spent ? motorbike calipers ? kevlar doors ?

 

Roll on the classic ford show !!

 

 

 

Jeff harris..

[fiesta_dan]

i was there it ran 11.8 to tell u the truth.it did sound f...ing lovely tho. we had a bad day testing as car wouldnt run right.billy clark ran a 14.2 in his home built car wich was great till he snaped a sharft

[kevmk2]

Must be the old ladder bar rear end doing its stuff, now get it on a track and watch the back wheel come off the floor

 

Kev, hes not using ladders ... he has traction bars.. its a bar that works a cam, as the spring winds up, the bar raises, and then through the pivot pushes another bar back down on the spring, so cancelling the wind up that causes tramp. been used in the states for eons, in the class's where no chassis mods are allowed, or on road cars, because you can set it back to normal just by removing the top pin.

 

 

They are better than ' slapper bars' but not as good as a ladder bar and coil-over set up, but then a proper 4 link is better than a ladder bar set up as you can have the best of both worlds.

 

 

Oh i see Gary, interesting stuff

[Guest MK1gaz]

Could this finally be the nail in the pintos coffin ?

 

Is this the car that will finally shut MkI Gaz up ?

 

OR

 

Will he have a whole host of excuses to do with the amount of money spent ? motorbike calipers ? kevlar doors ?

 

Roll on the classic ford show !!

Well it's got approx 300bhp and weighs less so it should be able to beat the pintos then . If it don't then you best chuck all the duratecs in the skip cos this one is the ultimate so if the 1970's engines are still sitting on it's back bumper with 70bhp less somethings not right .

[Guest MK1gaz]

So the 2008 classic ford day battle of the Atmo 4 pots (with no gas) in the race car category is hotting up then . I can see at least 5 cars side by side in this and it's going to be ace .

They are Andy Harris , Jayson Elvy , Bob Wiggins and the wild card is James Harris (if his cars ready in time) . These cars are all pinto powered . The next one is the new Dave College car with it's dogs bollox 8 injector duratec motor and super trick chassis . The people who've seen it yesterday reckon it's the dogs bollox and he should be the favourite with the amount of power it has over the others . The pintos won't go down without a fight though so this is going to be better than the champions league final !!!!!!!!!

[novanut64]

watched it run fooking stout car some nice little tricks on the estate the traction bars are caltrac knockoffs there are leafspring cars running mid 7"s on em

[Guest MK1gaz]

Someone must have got some pics of the estate racer then .

[Guest MK1gaz]

i was there it ran 11.8

It's on the pace then and with a 116mph terminal it's got the power to weight ratio to catch the pintos . It's amazing how expensive , light and powerfull the modern engines need to be to catch the 1970's engines with leaf springs and an old pair of DCOES on them . Just think how many people slagg off the pintos yet forget this small matter , no wonder they take it bad when i mention it .

[harris horse power]

even if the duratec does do a better time you cant really compare them as the pintos are naturally aspirated and the duratec has a super dooper 8 point injection system (which proble cost as much as the pinto build on there own)

[Jeff HPE Motorsport]

i was there it ran 11.8

It's on the pace then and with a 116mph terminal it's got the power to weight ratio to catch the pintos . It's amazing how expensive , light and powerfull the modern engines need to be to catch the 1970's engines with leaf springs and an old pair of DCOES on them . Just think how many people slagg off the pintos yet forget this small matter , no wonder they take it bad when i mention it .

 

Well said Gaz, keep up the good work mate,

Andy Harris` pinto powered mk1 escort, 236bhp, 11.41 best quarter, which is N/A, standard four speed box, standard rear axle, standard suspension, ie leaf springs, shocks, & all at 20 odd stone..

There is stiill more to come from that old Transit engine..

 

Jeff Harris..

[Retromotorsport]

Just think how many people slagg off the pintos yet forget this small matter , no wonder they take it bad when i mention it .

 

Gaz, I think you will find theres only one person that slags of engines, thats you.

 

Yes i call the the old Pinto the ' Pintosaurus ' ... but it is old, and still does sterling work, but round a circuit its getting beat by the more modern engines capable of a bigger spread of power. Yes the Duratec may be expensive at the moment, but compared to a BDA/BDG its cheap, and produces more power. But in correcting your mistakes when talking about the Duratec, I dont slag of the Pinto. Infact, have a search, i always say for power. versus money you cant beat the Pinto based YB turbo.

 

I wonder what would have been happening 50 odd years ago if the internet was around..........................................

 

sod that new fangled and expensive x-flow, the pre-x-flow is still better and cheaper

 

cue Toby

[Jeff HPE Motorsport]

Just think how many people slagg off the pintos yet forget this small matter , no wonder they take it bad when i mention it .

 

Gaz, I think you will find theres only one person that slags of engines, thats you.

 

Yes i call the the old Pinto the ' Pintosaurus ' ... but it is old, and still does sterling work, but round a circuit its getting beat by the more modern engines capable of a bigger spread of power. Yes the Duratec may be expensive at the moment, but compared to a BDA/BDG its cheap, and produces more power. But in correcting your mistakes when talking about the Duratec, I dont slag of the Pinto. Infact, have a search, i always say for power. versus money you cant beat the Pinto based YB turbo.

 

I wonder what would have been happening 50 odd years ago if the internet was around..........................................

 

sod that new fangled and expensive x-flow, the pre-x-flow is still better and cheaper

 

cue Toby

 

Come on us old boys & engines must be applauded for the power thats produced from an engine thats not aided by computer,& electronic goodies, just man power..

 

Cue Gaz..

[Retromotorsport]

Jeff, I did ...

 

and still does sterling work

 

 

The Pinto is still brillient, always will be in an escort, and in its various forms as a base block its the dogs danglies, but, as with all things, the new is normally better than the old.

 

Getting over 250 from what is just a head and cam swap is .. well its better than a pinto. 300bhp from a standard block and cranked Pinto of 2000cc .. price that up and then make it run for 97hours on a dyno .

 

But, in saloon car racing the Pinto still has its place at the front of class, as the Duratec puts an OSF in Class A, up against ..yep the YB Turbo , a pinto based engine ..

[Toby]

sod that new fangled and expensive x-flow, the pre-x-flow is still better and cheaper

 

cue Toby

 

 

To be fair it's quite difficult to get at some of the inlet / exhaust flange bolts on the pre-crossflow

[Toby]

Andy Harris` pinto powered mk1 escort, 236bhp, 11.41 best quarter, which is N/A, standard four speed box, standard rear axle, standard suspension, ie leaf springs, shocks, & all at 20 odd stone..

There is stiill more to come from that old Transit engine..

 

Jeff Harris..

 

Andy's car is, and always will be a legendary Pinto , and no doubt there is more to come.

 

The trouble is, and I've been trying to ignor it, technology does move on. I have persisted with the pre-cross cos I love it, but is there something better these days........?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

NO WAY!!!! - PRE-CROSSFLOW FOR EVER!!

[Stu_B]

 

 

 

NO WAY!!!! - PRE-CROSSFLOW FOR EVER!!

 

 

My first OSF was pinto powered, my 2nd crossflow powered, my current... pre crossflow powered & it's the nuts