SAF_Capri Posted September 2, 2008 Report Posted September 2, 2008 with a serious note.... im having some banter with a collegue at work who owns a civic type R ......im teaasing him saying i could keep up till about 80 in my capri ... could i tho? or ?? 2ltr pinto, inknown internal mods, twin carbs, ashley manifold, interior stripped.. or should i add i will beat him with my XE engine in?? it is just banter in work but got me thinking if i could beat him realistically or not?
razersedge Posted September 2, 2008 Report Posted September 2, 2008 he will have you if he is any kind of driver if he is a fairy he will lose because all of there power is above 6k with the xe you should have him if its modified you will have him my car with the xe in it will take down scooby's and m3's to a ton, and coming back from the pod i was holding my own against rouch mustang he was quicker than me but i was a lot closer than he thought i would be, but the taxi driver who let me out so i could play with him was pissing him self with laughter cos i was staying with him in an escort and i got a big thumbs up from him
BIG G Posted September 2, 2008 Report Posted September 2, 2008 i beat one at the pod as it only ran a 15.5 the rice rocket...
2.8i Cossie Posted September 2, 2008 Report Posted September 2, 2008 you will have hime untill....... veeeetaccccchh! YEAOO!
petrolhead Posted September 2, 2008 Report Posted September 2, 2008 I love these conversations! I think you will beat him to 30 or 40mph. they don't have a great deal of torque and the one I saw at the strip was also around a 15.5sec 1/4 mile. But I'm guessing your Capri would be low-mid 16's realistically.
CapperTom Posted September 2, 2008 Report Posted September 2, 2008 my 2.0 capri with mild head work twin carbs cam n exhaust run 15.6 up at pod, thats with 10" slicks 2.
Toby Posted September 3, 2008 Report Posted September 3, 2008 Romantic idea, but I think you're loosing the power and the weight card! Might have him with traction from some traffic lights but not for long I wouldn't have thought..... How mouthy have you been?
SAF_Capri Posted September 3, 2008 Author Report Posted September 3, 2008 Yeh i like these conversations too, ...im thinking i could suprise him, not beat him, he took me for a spin in his and to be honest i wasnt impressed as i thought i would be by the v-tec,...my old beamer with double valve timining gave more of a kick in the arse. ....role on the XE ... just need those six numbers or keep ebaying my spares
vibrating_Cake Posted September 5, 2008 Report Posted September 5, 2008 Yeh i like these conversations too, ...im thinking i could suprise him, not beat him, he took me for a spin in his and to be honest i wasnt impressed as i thought i would be by the v-tec,...my old beamer with double valve timining gave more of a kick in the arse. ....role on the XE ... just need those six numbers or keep ebaying my spares on that 2.0 pinto if its set up right on your spec.... you probably would to a STANDARD type R you just race him upto 70 (while still in front) and then slam on saying "i thought i saw a copper......) you win, no speeding tickets you have a big advantage off the line, from the lack of vetec and the big advantage of RWD grip, i tusseled with a couple of type r's with my old setup which is same to yours and the type r's are over rated oh also.... atm they dont stand any chance anymore (2.0 zetec just kicked in yo!) haha
CrazyCharlie Posted September 5, 2008 Report Posted September 5, 2008 i think its down to the driver as well i beat most of the boy racers round my area of the lights and up to bout 50 with me crossflowed estavan by the time i hit 40 most chicken out anyway
V8ian Posted September 5, 2008 Report Posted September 5, 2008 Romantic idea, but I think you're loosing the power and the weight card! Might have him with traction from some traffic lights but not for long I wouldn't have thought..... How mouthy have you been? Toby have you checked out the weights of modern cars recently??? example Mk1 RS2000 against the first series RS Focus, up to about 70, theres not a lot in it, especially as the focus has about twice the HP, then start looking at the Kerb weights, the focus is nearly 450kg heavier than the Escort. Technoligy may be clever, but it aint light. Thats assuming the foucs is around 1300kg and the Escort is 850kg
Toby Posted September 5, 2008 Report Posted September 5, 2008 Romantic idea, but I think you're loosing the power and the weight card! Might have him with traction from some traffic lights but not for long I wouldn't have thought..... How mouthy have you been? Toby have you checked out the weights of modern cars recently??? example Mk1 RS2000 against the first series RS Focus, up to about 70, theres not a lot in it, especially as the focus has about twice the HP, then start looking at the Kerb weights, the focus is nearly 450kg heavier than the Escort. Technoligy may be clever, but it aint light. Thats assuming the foucs is around 1300kg and the Escort is 850kg Completely agree mate, most new stuff is really heavy, which is great for comfort but no good for acceleration or mpg, however I thought the Type R's (early ones) where still quite light and about 200 hp But you're right it's why so many new cars are slugs.
Toby Posted September 5, 2008 Report Posted September 5, 2008 Nicked off a web site.... "The specifications of the latest red-badged Honda, the Civic Type R, have been released. Power and torque figures are much the same as the previous model, but delivery is said to be more linear throughout the rev range. Improvements to aerodynamics (not quantified by Honda), coupled with changes to the overall gearing, help to mitigate the heavier kerb weight. With a 201 PS shove from the 2 litre DOHC i-VTEC engine, the 0-100 km/h sprint is over in 6.6 seconds, and the top speed is claimed to be 235 km/h. The engine transmits its power through a six speed manual gearbox. CO2 emissions are 215 g/km. The sportier looking body sits 15 mm lower than the standard Civics, and rides on 18 inch wheels shod with 225/40 profile rubber. A lightweight Type R is in the pipeline. With various bits and pieces trimmed from the specification, the kerb weight drops by a claimed 40 kg. The standard Type R tips the scales at just over 1300 kg, which is already fairly light by modern standards." So not dead light but this is refering to the later one.
vibrating_Cake Posted September 5, 2008 Report Posted September 5, 2008 Nicked off a web site.... "The specifications of the latest red-badged Honda, the Civic Type R, have been released. Power and torque figures are much the same as the previous model, but delivery is said to be more linear throughout the rev range. Improvements to aerodynamics (not quantified by Honda), coupled with changes to the overall gearing, help to mitigate the heavier kerb weight. With a 201 PS shove from the 2 litre DOHC i-VTEC engine, the 0-100 km/h sprint is over in 6.6 seconds, and the top speed is claimed to be 235 km/h. The engine transmits its power through a six speed manual gearbox. CO2 emissions are 215 g/km. The sportier looking body sits 15 mm lower than the standard Civics, and rides on 18 inch wheels shod with 225/40 profile rubber. A lightweight Type R is in the pipeline. With various bits and pieces trimmed from the specification, the kerb weight drops by a claimed 40 kg. The standard Type R tips the scales at just over 1300 kg, which is already fairly light by modern standards." So not dead light but this is refering to the later one. they ONLY get 40kg down!!!!! is that it!!!! i have had bigger sh*ts than that hahaha. no but really... 40kg difference would mean... the same weight as a 2 year old and his booster seat in the car with you! foook alll
Toby Posted September 5, 2008 Report Posted September 5, 2008 Yeah not such a big percentage saving as it would be on an escort, they just loose out everywhere. - New = Pish!!
Rick Posted September 5, 2008 Report Posted September 5, 2008 think the civic will win tbh the one i got taken for a ride in was bonkers quick and he claimed it was standard... although cars do seem quicker when your a passenger
5hane Posted September 5, 2008 Report Posted September 5, 2008 they ONLY get 40kg down!!!!! is that it!!!! i have had bigger sh*ts than that hahaha. no but really... 40kg difference would mean... the same weight as a 2 year old and his booster seat in the car with you! foook alll pmsl, i was thinking the same.. lol, wonder how much more the 'light weight' version will cost
Toby Posted September 5, 2008 Report Posted September 5, 2008 they ONLY get 40kg down!!!!! is that it!!!! i have had bigger sh*ts than that hahaha. no but really... 40kg difference would mean... the same weight as a 2 year old and his booster seat in the car with you! foook alll pmsl, i was thinking the same.. lol, wonder how much more the 'light weight' version will cost I bet you'd be more than 90lbs lighter!
SAF_Capri Posted September 6, 2008 Author Report Posted September 6, 2008 theres only going to be one way to find out, ..drag strip-apparantly theres a disuesed airstrip in cornwall you can pay ten quid to drag up!! ...maybe put the XE in first tho hey
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