t33stat Posted November 26, 2009 Report Posted November 26, 2009 I want to build a garage/lean-to on the side of my house, I initially decided to build it from concrete blocks,. But am now unsure, it would be a few inches from the boundary line, so it will still be on my property. If I make it from wood then it doesn’t need planning permission because its temporary, but if I make it from bricks it permanent... Although apparently you don’t need planning permission for lean-to’s so if I make a solid wall and a wooden/plastic roof do you think i need planning permission? I could always just build a back onto it at a later date =] Ideally it will be about 30ft long, and 11ft wide (the length of the house and width of the drive, so I’ll have enough room to potter around and have a working area at one end =] And if its not lived in does that mean I don’t need planning permission? I have looked on the local council website but its totally crap, and when you phone them up they don’t want to know unless you have a planning permission number ... which you have to pay for (to register a plan), its like i have said to them a million times, I’m not building anything yet, just throwing ideas around!!! Thanks Ryan
sambo Posted November 26, 2009 Report Posted November 26, 2009 Will be following this. I have nothing to contribute but i might be in the same boat soon...... good luck mate.
Admin Mk2Jo Posted November 26, 2009 Admin Report Posted November 26, 2009 http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/englan ... tbuilding/
sampedlar06 Posted November 26, 2009 Report Posted November 26, 2009 planning permission is not required if, The lean to/garage to the side of the property is only single storey and no higher than 4 metres and no wider than half the width of the original house. Materials must match the existing. No more than 50% of your private garden area can be built upon. thats all i can think of at the moment. if i think of anything else ill add
SmokeEm Posted November 26, 2009 Report Posted November 26, 2009 As it has a roof, you must have proper drainage, i.e The gutter discharges into a soakaway or existing system - It CANNOT drain onto your drive or the road
Mr2Caps Posted November 26, 2009 Report Posted November 26, 2009 When you look to extend a property there are a lot of things to think about, planning permission is just one of them! Planning permission first, you are allowed to extend your property without planning permission, so long as what you are intending to do falls within your permitted development limits, the planning portal website link given earlier has an interactive house on it and should answer most of your questions! Be aware the limits may change or disappear altogether if you are in a conservation area or national park for example. Secondly you have to consider the requirements of the building regualtions, some structures like you propose can be considered exempt under the building regulations, BUT be wary of building a timber structure on the boundary as fire spread can become an issue and may make an otherwise exempt structure under the building regulations not exempt and non compliant. There could also be issues under the party wall act to consider as well! The guidance above is for general assistance only. It is impossible to say without viewing the site, whether you will need planning permission or not, or what you can build without the need for planning permission and/or building regualtion approval. I think you have two options: 1. It is no good phoning any council and asking regarding planning permission, the best they will be is vague! I would take a couple of photographs of the site and enclose them with a letter directly asking them if what you are proposing to do needs permission, and if so why! Even then they will only give you an informal opinion! Some councils will not even give that and will insist on either an application for planning permission or for a certificate of lawfulness if it is exempt. 2. You could employ a professional to act on your behalf and sort everything out for you. Most professionals should be able to visit the site and express an opinion as to what is, and what is not, required in terms of permissions. You do not necessarily need an architect, you could use a chartered surveyor, or buiiding engineer. The RICS website or Association of Building Engineers website should be able to put you in touch with someone locally. The consequences of putting up a structure without planning permission and/or building regulation approval can be huge! You can be fined and/or told to demolish the structure! I would always advocate finding out where you stand before commencing any building work. Apologies for lengthy reply!
X-pack-Glyn Posted November 26, 2009 Report Posted November 26, 2009 All i know is if i plan to go fishing i now allways get permission...once i just went fishing and didnt get permission, she got angry, it was a mini adventure.
Ken B Posted November 27, 2009 Report Posted November 27, 2009 The consequences of putting up a structure without planning permission and/or building regulation approval can be huge! You can be fined and/or told to demolish the structure! I would always advocate finding out where you stand before commencing any building work. ! Some years back i applied for plan perm and got it for prefab garage of fairly large proportions. However when it arrived and was assembled, the garage was actually a few inches higher(about9 inches) than the plan called for. Bearing in mind this garage had cost me the best part of 8 or 9K inclding the base. To be told to take it down or we will by the council is no laughing matter trust me. Luckily and I had to fight really hard costing me another few hundred quid I finally got retrospective permission. So my advice is get it in writing somewhere first, cos the council will have the last laugh, and it only take one moaning git to get them on your case.
FredTransit Posted November 27, 2009 Report Posted November 27, 2009 Planning varies so much from council to council I would make an appointment to discuss if I were you. As already said get everything in writing, that way there is no backing out on their part.
Mr2Caps Posted November 27, 2009 Report Posted November 27, 2009 As already said get everything in writing, that way there is no backing out on their part. You'd think that, wouldn't you?! Actually, if you get an infomal opinion it has no weight in law, so technically, they can back out! All the letters I have seen have a disclaimer on them! The only way to ensure that you don't need planning permission is to apply for a certificate of lawfulness from the council, which is effectively a legal piece of paper which says you don't need planning permission! To do this you will need plans and application forms, and the council will want a fee!
escortmad79 Posted November 28, 2009 Report Posted November 28, 2009 Supply a big enough one of these filled with the correct "paperwork" & you can get anything built anywhere Allegedly of course!
FredTransit Posted November 28, 2009 Report Posted November 28, 2009 As already said get everything in writing, that way there is no backing out on their part. You'd think that, wouldn't you?! Actually, if you get an infomal opinion it has no weight in law, so technically, they can back out! All the letters I have seen have a disclaimer on them! The only way to ensure that you don't need planning permission is to apply for a certificate of lawfulness from the council, which is effectively a legal piece of paper which says you don't need planning permission! To do this you will need plans and application forms, and the council will want a fee! So pretty much like applying for planning permission then? Thought so....
Mr2Caps Posted November 30, 2009 Report Posted November 30, 2009 yep, the rules governing permitted development and planning application submissions changed october 2008, was supposed to make things easier for everyone, so we know what that means......
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