2.2 Duratorq diesel engine in an osf help !!!!!!!!

[xpackken]

hey guys , ive been thinking about doing this for a while , for those who dont know the engine it the 2.2 diesel that they put in st 155 mondeo (had one) they can be remapped to 200bhp easily and still return 42mpg

 

only problem is were to start , i spoke to dave a retro ford today , he reckons a type 9 box is the same bolt pattern but had limted knowledge on this particular engine !!

 

Has anyone got any info about them and if its do able , As dave said i will prob struggle with the electrical side of things ,

 

 

Not realy shore were to start ??

[puddy]

I would be more worried about coded ecu's and getting the engine running

 

puddy

[xpackken]

thats what i meant dude , is it a bitch to do ? or even possible ?

[V8ian]

I dont know if it has been done got to be worth a call to somebody Like Emerald, and ask Karl to see if its posible to use a stand alone ECU.

42 MPG on a Mundano, Vector the weight of your car into the equation, and 60mpg is probably more near the mark

[DarrenM]

There was a MK1 Transit with modern diesel featured in Classic Ford a while back. That might give you an idea where to start. I think a type 9 will last until you floor it with all that lovely torque! Perhaps a MT75 as featured in this months Classic Ford as a Type 9 alternative would be better?

[bortaf]

The bloke who built the Mk1 is on the transit owners forum, he might give you some pointers ?

[turnover]

there is a company on the market that sells a stand alone ecu for diesel,if i remember tommorow will ask the question as we were only talking about it the other day,they say them engines can tune up to 250/300 fairley easily and massive torque

[xpackken]

so v8ian you reckon id get more mpg

 

so is the mt75 the same pattern as the type 9 ???

 

turnover that would be very helpful, would it save a load of messing , if you want to explain the principles of ecus i wud appreciate it

 

 

i had mine remapped and it ws quick for a big heavy car , i think it would go rely well in a capri and probably suprise a few people of the lights , and upset a few purists :)

[oliwally]

so v8ian you reckon id get more mpg

 

so is the mt75 the same pattern as the type 9 ???

 

turnover that would be very helpful, would it save a load of messing , if you want to explain the principles of ecus i wud appreciate it

 

 

i had mine remapped and it ws quick for a big heavy car , i think it would go rely well in a capri and probably suprise a few people of the lights , and upset a few purists :)

 

just use the 6 speeder from the rear drive transits,think bolt pattern is different

[xpackken]

so v8ian you reckon id get more mpg

 

so is the mt75 the same pattern as the type 9 ???

 

turnover that would be very helpful, would it save a load of messing , if you want to explain the principles of ecus i wud appreciate it

 

 

i had mine remapped and it ws quick for a big heavy car , i think it would go rely well in a capri and probably suprise a few people of the lights , and upset a few purists :)

 

just use the 6 speeder from the rear drive transits,think bolt pattern is different

 

 

is they a typ 9 then ??

 

 

 

anyone who knows ecu stuff want to have a look at this for me and put it into english

 

 

http://www.specialist-components.co.uk/ ... ageDisplay

[oliwally]

so v8ian you reckon id get more mpg

 

so is the mt75 the same pattern as the type 9 ???

 

turnover that would be very helpful, would it save a load of messing , if you want to explain the principles of ecus i wud appreciate it

 

 

i had mine remapped and it ws quick for a big heavy car , i think it would go rely well in a capri and probably suprise a few people of the lights , and upset a few purists :)

 

just use the 6 speeder from the rear drive transits,think bolt pattern is different

 

 

is they a typ 9 then ??

 

 

 

anyone who knows ecu stuff want to have a look at this for me and put it into english

 

 

http://www.specialist-components.co.uk/ ... ageDisplay

No Ford stopped using type 9's in the early to mid part of the 1990's

switched to mt75's,the mmt320 box is based on them,but i think its got a simular bolt patern to the duratec.

think its a mmt320 anyway,bloody heavy ol box but is 6 speeder for sure

[turnover]

the advantage of standalone ecu is obviously you can live map it and say you put bigger turbo on you can add more fuel etc,and it comes with a loom which you make yourself with all connectors and only needs live and neg to opperate and you wont have to try and use the oe loom ecu and try and trace the wiring and splice it in,and also you wont be limited with all the built in safty features of oe on,although remaps are good they are never as good as a fully mappable ecu

[xpackken]

so is that link , the type of thing i need ???

 

i am so fooking stupid wen it comes to anything more than a few wires

[puddy]

so is that link , the type of thing i need ???

 

i am so fooking stupid wen it comes to anything more than a few wires

 

I would be very suprised if you could get it running as an engine transplant

 

without using ALL of the mondeo looms,ecu's, binnacle ,fuel system front to

 

rear ,and the throttle is fly by wire technology .

 

The injectors are individually coded, the ecu is coded in to the vehicles pats

 

systems, it would need all of the proper engine/road speed signals, the list

 

is endless !

 

I can't see an after market ecu running a MODERN diesel engine, unless

 

its VERY expensive !

 

Puddy

 

(Ex Ford senior tech)

[turnover]

puddy they rekon theve done a few now and fly by wire works and injectors etc but will try and find out more tomoz

[xpackken]

puddy they rekon theve done a few now and fly by wire works and injectors etc but will try and find out more tomoz

 

i eagerly await your reply