w p e Posted January 18, 2013 Report Posted January 18, 2013 whats your veiws on this then? 23 mins in it shows the truth about a few things but don't skip any sIoPjfLnEFY
w p e Posted January 19, 2013 Author Report Posted January 19, 2013 no interest then? perhaps the group mentioned 23 mins in were in vauxhall recently
fieldy1972 Posted January 19, 2013 Report Posted January 19, 2013 Started watching last night mate and just finished now. It is rather moody when you take a closer look at the details. I've got a 2 and 13 year old and if something happened to them I would be in pieces. Would not be laughing or acting normal that's for sure. It is a wonder why everyone was just strolling about when kids could be dying inside. Too many oddities and questions.
Admin Vista Posted January 19, 2013 Admin Report Posted January 19, 2013 Conspiracy theorists will come up with something for every major event that happens. They're usually the ones that are living in the woods in the US with large gun collections and saucepans on their heads to deflect the alien rays!
fieldy1972 Posted January 19, 2013 Report Posted January 19, 2013 Too true . And I've watched a few conspiracy theorists over the years but sometimes there are some parts of an event that don't look right. one bit that stands out is the father of the little girl just before he gets interviewed. That's just one aspect for me.
Admin Vista Posted January 19, 2013 Admin Report Posted January 19, 2013 Perhaps, but blanking something out completely is also a common self defence mechanism when someone can't cope with what's happened, then the first thing they would need to do is psyche themselves up to talk about it on camera.
popeye Posted January 19, 2013 Report Posted January 19, 2013 crazy shit going on all the time.. i had been working Oxford street in "81" when the IRA bombed Wimpeys.... we all got moved away only to have a near miss walking down an alley by our boys in blue driving a transit van .. oh well...at least it was a ford
w p e Posted January 19, 2013 Author Report Posted January 19, 2013 i think things like this coming out just shows how bent ours and there so called leaders realy are and the more things like this come out the better it will be for us to know who not to trust not that i trust any of the moody dodgey fookers . up the revolution
Stiggy Posted January 20, 2013 Report Posted January 20, 2013 W.ayne I gave up trying to show people what is really going on in the world. Control at the end of the day. Who would talk against gun control after all the dead kids ??? H6b70TUbdfs
Admin Vista Posted January 20, 2013 Admin Report Posted January 20, 2013 So you both believe the conspiracy theorists then? The CIA crashed planes into the twin towers? MI5 blew up the London buses? I suppose the Queen put a hit on Princess Di too? I mean c'mon, really?
w p e Posted January 20, 2013 Author Report Posted January 20, 2013 So you both believe the conspiracy theorists then? The CIA crashed planes into the twin towers? MI5 blew up the London buses? I suppose the Queen put a hit on Princess Di too? I mean c'mon, really? yes i do believe all of the above it was said at the time and its said now the goverment the army all the forces are bent and as dave said its a control thing
Admin Vista Posted January 20, 2013 Admin Report Posted January 20, 2013 Lol, I have it on good authority that the armed services aren't bent, I served in them long enough. Conspiracy theorists, quack quack quackery quackers. Watch out, the aliens from area 51 are coming.............
Stiggy Posted January 20, 2013 Report Posted January 20, 2013 It's so much easier for Joe Public to believe the "Official Line" Just open your eyes. I could post untold stuff, covering many many topics. Global Warming, 9/11, 7/7, Princess Diana, HAARP, Chem Trails, Nikola Tesler, Bilderberg Group, Bohemian Grove, Illuminati . Look up any of the above In the late 1800's early 1900's Nikola Tesler had a working way of sending free electricity anywhere in the world, his money backer J P Morgan said where do I put the meter ? and withdrew his backing. 9/11 Made the American public give up their rights, under the disguise of terrorism. Just like the recent shooting in the USSA will end in a ban on guns, over here Dunblane had a gun ban within a month. Knives and guns are banned in the UK, knife and gun crimes gone down since the ban ?? Energy prices go threw the roof, what ends up on the front page ? White man in the minority in London. You decide for yourselves. Anyone aware that any fine issued is illegal ?? Unless found guilty in the court of law ??
Admin Vista Posted January 20, 2013 Admin Report Posted January 20, 2013 I'm probably sounding like I'm not prepared to consider that the conspiracy theories may be true, not at all. I've watched many edited video clips selectively put together by such people as in the original youtube footage, I've read the arguments of others etc. I just don't think they stand up. For two reasons [*:1iult0tu]Who gains? What do those the conspirators accuse really gain from these alleged conspiracies? 9/11 and the cost of the subsequent war on terror is at least partially responsible for the huge US budget deficit. Who gains from this? Well, US arms manufacturers do of course but that's not who the conspiracy theorists point the finger at. They point the finger at the US Government itself and the CIA. Hokum, no 1st world nation government of the modern age would actively participate in the murder of thousands of its own citizens. The patriot act (if that's what you're referring to) is a necessary tool for intelligence gathering against people who would act against the common good of the people whilst at the same time hiding behind the rights of the innocent in order to disguise their crime. The innocent themselves still having nothing to fear. Al-Qaeda however, they've gained quite nicely from 9/11. In one act their hitherto almost unheard of organisation was a household name around the world, followers flocking to the cause of their "martyrd heroes" whilst their coffers rang with donations from like minded wealthy supporters and nations that sponsored or provided havens for terrorist training camps / selling them weapons. North Korea and Iran for instance. Kind of suits Al-Qaeda for the American economy to be in a mess too doesn't it? Gun control laws? You think Obama wants to murder a whole school full of children in order to get automatic weapons regulated against? Plus, it isn't clear from the video clips that guy has put together whether he's alleging that the whole thing is fake and the kids weren't murdered at all, or the whole thing was a set up and the kids were murdered by the state to get gun control laws past congress. How do you know that the editor of that video isn't another NRA nutcase like that lunatic Alex Jones who ranted at Piers Morgan on his talk show? Perhaps the conspirator here is the man who put the video together? Back to who gains? He does, by discrediting the events and getting people to believe that they were either faked by the Government or worse, carried out by the Government in order to swing public opinion in favour of gun control. If that's the real motive of this video editor, it's worked a treat on you hasn't it? [*:1iult0tu]Secrecy. A secret as enormous as government collusion in the mass murder of its citizens (both 9/11 and 7/7) would be impossible to keep. Someone would crack, the guilt for all those deaths would get to them and the secret would come out. The documentary evidence would fall into the wrong hands or be seen by the wrong person. All opinions are just my own and meant to provoke debate, not specifically to discredit the opinions of others.
Stiggy Posted January 20, 2013 Report Posted January 20, 2013 Like I say each has their own opinions. All I say to people is have an open mind.
Posse Posted January 20, 2013 Report Posted January 20, 2013 The one that went down in the field was shot down two
lotusless Posted January 20, 2013 Report Posted January 20, 2013 Lol, I have it on good authority that the armed services aren't bent, I served in them long enough. Conspiracy theorists, quack quack quackery quackers. Watch out, the aliens from area 51 are coming............. But Scott you and any member of the armed forces are told what to do by their leaders who are told what to do by the government so they are just pawns in the bigger picture. I know it's just your opinion and we are all entitled to that, but there is just too much "dodgy" stuff that goes on in this world. Look up the links that Stiggy posted above and not have doubts. you say the videos are "edited" oh so the official government one's are not then ? IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY at the end of the day war is BIG money, money talks and people can be paid off to do or say anything. Big brother is watching you know they probably read all our emails/ and text and listen in to phone calls. CONTROL is the word all right.
Rookie Posted January 20, 2013 Report Posted January 20, 2013 Illuminati allegidly did Whitney Houston in. Worth more dead than alive as her voice was wrecked. Though a pi reckons she was murdered by top drug dealers over an unpaid debt. The truth is out there !! ....somewhere
w p e Posted January 20, 2013 Author Report Posted January 20, 2013 Lol, I have it on good authority that the armed services aren't bent, I served in them long enough. Conspiracy theorists, quack quack quackery quackers. Watch out, the aliens from area 51 are coming............. funny my grandad was a very high ranking soldier and i mean high and he told a few truths about the army and all involved with them and bent was a mild way of putting it. each to there own oh and my uncle john was in the air force for many years and he has told some truths aswell. ill wait for the aliens from area 51 before i'll comment on that but seems theres alot out there saying its true
Admin Vista Posted January 20, 2013 Admin Report Posted January 20, 2013 OK OK OK I concede defeat, the aliens are out there, the government monitors our thoughts with space rays and all the bad things that have ever happened were inside jobs designed to keep the people in check Now, can someone help me with my self defence kit? My saucepans are too small but if I line this plastic colander with tinfoil, will that work?
Rookie Posted January 20, 2013 Report Posted January 20, 2013 Depends which conspiricy is after you fella, the carlsberg will certantly protect you coz it can reach your parts others cannot reach !!.
lotusless Posted January 20, 2013 Report Posted January 20, 2013 Don't get me started on Aliens next All i will say is if you think that all the galaxies and billions of planets out there, + if you think we are the only one's in it you are very short sighted and naive.
Admin Vista Posted January 20, 2013 Admin Report Posted January 20, 2013 Actually Neil on that I agree with you. I'm 100% certain that this planet is not the only one in the universe that can support life. The universe is too big for that. However I don't believe that they've already been here and the USAF has a crashed alien space ship in area 51.
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