Crap Justice

[mexicansteve]

Sorry 'bout this, just need a rant.

My brother in Plymouth has just found out that the CPS are not going to prosecute a group of bouncers who, a year ago, beat him senseless and then held him down and gouged his eyes till one of them burst.

Justice my arse.

[Vista]

I feel for you/him mate. I was grabbed by 3 "doormen" (also in Plymouth) in 1995 and end up in casualty with a number of injuries. Like you/him the CPS wouldn't prosecute them citing lack of evidence. The three of them had plenty of time to get their story straight and, surprise surprise, the CCTV wasn't working that night. <br /><br />The fact that there's been no prosecution doesn't mean that you can't make an injury claim against the premises insurer though. He can also pursue a CICA claim (Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority). I did the latter and was compensated eventually. Best speak to a solicitor.<br /><br />

[mexicansteve]

I think he's doing all of the above including making a complaint against the police citing there poor attempt at an investigation. Feels a bit conspiratorial to be honest.

[Vista]

Sounds all too familiar to me. I remember reading the riot act to a DS in Charles Cross Police Station when she told me they weren't going to prosecute. Has he lost an eye altogether then?<br /><br />

[mexicansteve]

Yep. They split it, he's blind in one eye and now it's being removed I believe.

These bouncers will, in time, get away with murder. I think they may be a bit friendly with certain police officers.

[Mk2Jo]

That's terrible for your brother, Steve, and also for you Vista!

[Vista]

Mine was a long time ago Jo and whilst I do still suffer something from it (nose was quite badly broken) it's minor next to what this guy has had happen to him

[mk2 mike]

Yep. They split it, he's blind in one eye and now it's being removed I believe.

These bouncers will, in time, get away with murder. I think they may be a bit friendly with certain police officers.

 

Not many police are friendly with door staff. They cause more trouble than they solve ime. Cps are useless though, the arguments I've had with them...

[w p e]

excuse the pun. but an eye for an eye simples. there WAS a couple of big bad door BOYS down here that got handy with someone i know for no real reason a long while ago . they don't work there anymore if fact they don't/can't work again wink wink.

justice in this country is only if your face fits.  

[w p e]

old chinese proverb. play with fire you WILL get burnt

[w p e]

Yep. They split it, he's blind in one eye and now it's being removed I believe.

These bouncers will, in time, get away with murder. I think they may be a bit friendly with certain police officers.

i take it you mean bent coppers? wouldn't surprise me 

[Col-ashtonmobile]

Well there's doorman and there's security , the definition of 'Bouncers ' imho is unclear, Doorman see and vet clients, customers ,revellers in and out of the premises , Security keep clients , customers , revellers secure and safe inside the premises and take drunk troublemakers etc to the exit , Bouncers don't seem to have a definte roll except to sometimes intimidate clients etc to doing what they say or feel they should or shouldn't do , Rewind back to 1991 having just played a tough Rugby match at Worthing a few of us ventured into Brighton for the evening , 7 of us decided on going into a bar which was manned by bouncers , 3 of us decided on some chips before going in so approached the door finishing our chips when this lairy bouncer say;s to me ' You aint coming in with those chips ' I said 'I was going to finish them first anyway ' He then said ' tell you what you aint coming in anyway ' I said 'why our 4 mates are in there ' ' he said ' cos I said so ' and for no reason smacked the chip bag out of my hand , so I picked it up and threw it at him , he then squared up to me and a scuffle started , now not being cocky but I was an 18 stone fit rugby player so got his face in the pavement and told him he was,nt as tough as he thinks he is ......Guess who ended up in the police car after his mate called them and told a total pack of lies about how I started a fight with them .......all just so uncalled for and totally out of order !!! 

[5tox]

Where i work (not a bouncer or police officer) they teach us that you cannot use more force than is necessary and the amount of force used must be proportionate to the risk,

 

Sticking your fingers in somebody's eye until it bursts would only be reasonable if you felt that your life were in danger

 

i believe if you took it to court those same basic principles would apply, i really feel for him mate as i feel that as usual door bouncers / mobsters have used excessive force where it wasn't necessary