Herr Doktor Posted December 3, 2013 Report Posted December 3, 2013 I've made a search on the forums and the "interweb" for "dash board images" and "under dash parcel tray" etc but can't find any decent images of them in situ. Does anyone have any decent images of theirs so I can see how they're meant to fit in please? I'm considering buying the ones Aldridge sell which look like a type of this cardboard? Is that the case? I'm wondering how strong they are As usual, cheers Folks
Herr Doktor Posted December 4, 2013 Author Report Posted December 4, 2013 What car mate? ha ha ha ha ha ha. DOH! It seems I forgot to add a fundamental piece of information. What a complete Muppet! lol 1968 Mk1 Escort
stuartp Posted December 4, 2013 Report Posted December 4, 2013 I don't have any pics and any I take of mine would be useless as I ended up just bodging it (and leaving the driver's one out) I guess it's one of the least glamorous parts of putting the car back together but you'd think there's be some pictures somewhere
Andrade Posted December 4, 2013 Report Posted December 4, 2013 just put mine in last sunday but this is the best photo I have..
Herr Doktor Posted December 4, 2013 Author Report Posted December 4, 2013 How do they fit? The ones Aldridge's sell seem to be a thin piece of card/ hard plastic?
Andrade Posted December 4, 2013 Report Posted December 4, 2013 How do they fit? The ones Aldridge's sell seem to be a thin piece of card/ hard plastic? mine are the original ones though so they fit OK, just a bit warped since they came in contact with water at some point..
Andrade Posted December 4, 2013 Report Posted December 4, 2013 found these online, they look pretty similar to the original ones I put in. They're missing the front lip though. You can just make it out in the photo of my estate
Herr Doktor Posted December 4, 2013 Author Report Posted December 4, 2013 found these online, they look pretty similar to the original ones I put in. They're missing the front lip though. You can just make it out in the photo of my estate That look similar to the ones Aldridge sell http://www.aldridge.co.uk/PartsImages/Ford/ESCORT%20%20MK%201/Other/underlh.jpg
Andrade Posted December 4, 2013 Report Posted December 4, 2013 yes, notice that on the front it doesn't have the wide bit that goes on the edge of it. so things can just roll off the shelf. the original item has something attached to the edge of the front lip to prevent that from happening
Herr Doktor Posted December 5, 2013 Author Report Posted December 5, 2013 yes, notice that on the front it doesn't have the wide bit that goes on the edge of it. so things can just roll off the shelf. the original item has something attached to the edge of the front lip to prevent that from happening I had wondered about that when I saw the ones of the Aldridge web site. I've managed to find quite a few suppliers online yet they all appear to supply these flat type. I'm wondering whether they actually work or not? Has anyone fitted this flat-type of should I continue searching for those with a lip [assuming there indeed are any]
mk2 mike Posted December 5, 2013 Report Posted December 5, 2013 Suppose it depends if you actually want to put anything on it or just have it there for cosmetic reasons?
Herr Doktor Posted December 5, 2013 Author Report Posted December 5, 2013 Suppose it depends if you actually want to put anything on it or just have it there for cosmetic reasons? It's always nice to be given the choice though. Hilariously, in a drunken stupor on Saturday it seems I ordered some from Aldridge and I actually have the passengers shelf in my possession as I type!! As in the images though, the shelf is indeed totally flat. This seems a fundamental design flaw because as mentioned anything placed on the shelf is doomed to roll off under even the slightest acceleration! Not only that, the exposed edge hasn't even been coloured. It's just bare hardboard. I dodn't really understand why they've been made of two pieces of hardboard joijed together either? What's the point in that? I can't say I'm too impressed with Aldridge so far. I hope my door cards when they arrive will be better!
katana Posted December 5, 2013 Report Posted December 5, 2013 I think you are being a bit harsh on a 'relatively' small company making a limited range of replacement parts for a niche market! Ford originally would have expended vast sums of money on tooling / dies / presses to form door cards, rear quarter panels and parcel shelves in steam formed fibreboard. All that tooling went for scrap once the model run is over - a stockpile of parts being produced prior. Now to re-tool for this VERY limited market is not realistic even for Ford - what hope has a company like Aldridge got? If you don't like the piece why not get cracking and tool up and make them yourself for others - you might be able to sell 50 sets a year IF YOU ARE LUCKY! That'll be a moneyspinner, probably only cost retail about £500 per shelf or card + covering of course! And regarding your previous comment that most parts are available - I would disagree! You might get body panels .....which are pattern parts so don't fit particularly well, engine parts again are pattern or refurb'd or robbed off similar later models but anything interior related is usually 'hens teeth' rare - try Brown Betacloth for RS seats for example - its not worth (economically speaking) a trimmer ordering 5,000 metres from a mill cos he gets a couple of seat cover jobs in one year. These cars will realistically only survive by people either accepting the failings of the 'naff' replacement parts, modding the cars to take whatever is available or wait for others who are not so attached to the car to scrap it and 'part it out' at a huge profit but with limited availability. Personally i've got my RS and am happy to follow route #2 - its a 35 year old car that'll get 35 year old s/hand parts if available, modern engine / 5 speed modded / uprated brakes axle and suspension - in my case and be happy as its mine and mine for driving not showing and storing like some Work of Art. Nothing against that if its your bag but its getting harder to achieve and moaning about it won't make it any better. Minor rant over LOL!
Andrade Posted December 5, 2013 Report Posted December 5, 2013 I don't think anyone was doubting the quality of the parts here! just that something needs to be added to the edge of the shelf. there's plenty of rubber edging available which could complete the task easily, though it wouldn't be as wide as the standard item
Herr Doktor Posted December 5, 2013 Author Report Posted December 5, 2013 I think you are being a bit harsh on a 'relatively' small company making a limited range of replacement parts for a niche market! Ford originally would have expended vast sums of money on tooling / dies / presses to form door cards, rear quarter panels and parcel shelves in steam formed fibreboard. All that tooling went for scrap once the model run is over - a stockpile of parts being produced prior. Now to re-tool for this VERY limited market is not realistic even for Ford - what hope has a company like Aldridge got? If you don't like the piece why not get cracking and tool up and make them yourself for others - you might be able to sell 50 sets a year IF YOU ARE LUCKY! That'll be a moneyspinner, probably only cost retail about £500 per shelf or card + covering of course! And regarding your previous comment that most parts are available - I would disagree! You might get body panels .....which are pattern parts so don't fit particularly well, engine parts again are pattern or refurb'd or robbed off similar later models but anything interior related is usually 'hens teeth' rare - try Brown Betacloth for RS seats for example - its not worth (economically speaking) a trimmer ordering 5,000 metres from a mill cos he gets a couple of seat cover jobs in one year. These cars will realistically only survive by people either accepting the failings of the 'naff' replacement parts, modding the cars to take whatever is available or wait for others who are not so attached to the car to scrap it and 'part it out' at a huge profit but with limited availability. Personally i've got my RS and am happy to follow route #2 - its a 35 year old car that'll get 35 year old s/hand parts if available, modern engine / 5 speed modded / uprated brakes axle and suspension - in my case and be happy as its mine and mine for driving not showing and storing like some Work of Art. Nothing against that if its your bag but its getting harder to achieve and moaning about it won't make it any better. Minor rant over LOL! ha ha ha ha ha ha. Thanks for the input katana. I'll take it on board pmsl
Herr Doktor Posted December 5, 2013 Author Report Posted December 5, 2013 I don't think anyone was doubting the quality of the parts here! just that something needs to be added to the edge of the shelf. there's plenty of rubber edging available which could complete the task easily, though it wouldn't be as wide as the standard item I agree. The board cost £30 with postage so I assumed it would be fit for purpose straight out of the box. I need to mod it so fine. Maybe I expected too much? I assumed it would at least have been finished ;p
Herr Doktor Posted December 7, 2013 Author Report Posted December 7, 2013 So, I've brought the parcel tray home and test fitted it and I've decided it's not what I want. Consequently I now have an Aldridge passengers side parcel tray to give to someone. Whilst removing it I've slightly ham-fistedly bent a corner of the board but that won't detract from its use or overall aesthetic. It came in a rather large box so you can pay for the delivery charge but other than that the first person with their name and address can have it. Cheers
samh Posted December 8, 2013 Report Posted December 8, 2013 hi,when using the alderidge parcel shelves you must reuse the origional strip to stop things rolling of the shelf.the strips are held on with a type of staple/pin.i found their shelves to be excellant 2
Herr Doktor Posted December 10, 2013 Author Report Posted December 10, 2013 Hi Samh, Unfortunately I do not have the OG shelves to dismantle. I find it quite funny that I can't even give these away lol! 1
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