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Hi I recall about twenty years ago my mate built a 2.0 litre pinto bottom end with a 1.6 head as he said the valves on a 1.6 head are bigger than a 2.0 litre head is this right all I remember is the car was really quick as in it got stolen and the police couldn't catch it in a scenitor police car . Just after abit of info really if the 1.6 does have bigger valves or not ? Thanks for any info .

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It can be that you get a higher compression , due a smaller compression chamber , but the inlet valve and outlet valve are smaller from 1600 ohc also the ports than a 2000 ohc.

If you got a 1600gt  or 1600s that one got the same inlet valve as a 2000 and a bigger inlet port.

And these one`s have also a faster cameshaft.

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It can be that you get a higher compression , due a smaller compression chamber , but the inlet valve and outlet valve are smaller from 1600 ohc also the ports than a 2000 ohc.

If you got a 1600gt  or 1600s that one got the same inlet valve as a 2000 and a bigger inlet port.

And these one`s have also a faster cameshaft.

Maybe could of been that then I just remember him showing me the heads and the 2.0 litre had small valves and the 1.6 had big valves maybe it was a gt head , it was a pig to start as in didn't turn over very fast but when running. Was ok just a shame it got stolen as they blew it up so didn't last long either .

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Normal are the valve`s from a 2000 ohc bigger than a 1600 ohc the 1600 gt and 1600 s have the 2000 inlet valve , so not bigger than a 2000.

But may be there same work done at that head ?

Is the transit 2.0 litre low compression does it have smaller valves then just wondering what this other head was then with the smaller valves hmmmmm

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That`s a good question , but  i don`t think so , if i am right are those piston`s shorter ?

Well you have answered my question anyway thank you ! I won't need to put a smaller head on a 2.0 litre bottom end then just thinking in the future maybe dropping the 1.3 cross flow and putting a 2.0 pinto in instead . Bloody frank Kelly's fault just been watching him in is mk2 escort McRae stile :)

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The 1.6 head was used to increase compression but you needed to unshroud the valves or compression to high

2.0L head has 50cc chambers 1.6 has 38cc chambers so a straight swap gets you 11.5 to 1

Pistons are marginal at 10.5 to 1 and Super unleaded is ok at 10.8 to 1

Conclusion is that the 1.6 head is more trouble than it's worth

The 2.0L Pinto injection head is better than a carb head due to higher inlet port angle and smooth inlet port to valve seat shortside turn, fit this with a thin gasket and a light skim, a decent cam and better carbs you should see over 130bhp

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The 1.6 head was used to increase compression but you needed to unshroud the valves or compression to high

2.0L head has 50cc chambers 1.6 has 38cc chambers so a straight swap gets you 11.5 to 1

Pistons are marginal at 10.5 to 1 and Super unleaded is ok at 10.8 to 1

Conclusion is that the 1.6 head is more trouble than it's worth

The 2.0L Pinto injection head is better than a carb head due to higher inlet port angle and smooth inlet port to valve seat shortside turn, fit this with a thin gasket and a light skim, a decent cam and better carbs you should see over 130bhp

Oh thanks ! what year car had the injection head on it ? Sounds like a plan :)

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I had a 1.6 head on my 2.1 OHC, it's an old banger racers method of getting more power from the smaller head combustion chamber, the head was sorted a bit with bigger valves springs, cam and twin throttle bodies it made 171 brake at the flywheel!

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The injection heads have egg shaped inlet ports at the manifold face, early ones were leaded but I've only seen unleaded

R,P rf L top left of exhaust manifold face denotes unleaded hardened exhaust valve seats

 

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The injection heads have egg shaped inlet ports at the manifold face, early ones were leaded but I've only seen unleaded

R,P rf L top left of exhaust manifold face denotes unleaded hardened exhaust valve seats

 

L, R, RR, P or PP according to my notebook.

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I had a 1.6 head on my 2.1 OHC, it's an old banger racers method of getting more power from the smaller head combustion chamber, the head was sorted a bit with bigger valves springs, cam and twin throttle bodies it made 171 brake at the flywheel!

I bet that must of been what he did then :) cus it was quick but you needed a good battery to turn it over cus of the compression . This was in a mk4 cortina bolted to a 1600 gearbox and diff so can only imagine what it would go like in a mk2 escort :)

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