STARTIN a pinto build

[BIG G]

2.2 or 2.1 that is the question started buying odds n sods. where will i get my crank tuftrided locally down south im so excited about getting goin upwards of 175 is the bhp target and 8000rpm screamin pinto ye ha

[DEP]

Vulcan mate.

Nice one Gordy

[BIG G]

Na no professionals for me like doin this shit myself as you know ian

[DEP]

Na no professionals for me like doin this shit myself as you know ian

Oh sorry i thought you meant, you wanted someone to tuftride your crank

[Mr Sam]

2.3 with a volvo 16v head

[cossieglen]

2.1 with a Harris head and cosworth bottom end

 

Well I'm a bit biased as that's what I'm building, but Ron Harris assures me it's going to be good for 180-190bhp and 8,250rpm

[GJUK]

2.1 with a Harris head and cosworth bottom end

 

Well I'm a bit biased as that's what I'm building, but Ron Harris assures me it's going to be good for 180-190bhp and 8,250rpm

 

Slightly off topic but what does something like this cost to buy please?

 

Cheers

 

Jon

[PIG]

gordy pm m8

[marky4]

good luck m8

[BIG G]

soz ian get your drift now.

Well done paul

[cossieglen]

2.1 with a Harris head and cosworth bottom end

 

Well I'm a bit biased as that's what I'm building, but Ron Harris assures me it's going to be good for 180-190bhp and 8,250rpm

 

Slightly off topic but what does something like this cost to buy please?

 

Cheers

 

Jon

 

All told, including everything, (Pistons, cam, head, rods, crank, block, clutch, flywheel, exhaust) it's costing me in the region of £3000, building the engine myself just buying the bits. It could cost more, it could cost less, all depends on what parts you buy for it really, and one factor is how much you get the crank and rods for, and the block etc, as these will come second hand. If you want to know more mate, feel free to PM me.

 

Sorry for the quick hijack BIG G.

[GJUK]

Thanks mate,

 

(you may all continue on topic now lol)

 

Jon

[Vista]

2.2 gets my vote, you get a whole lot more grunt for your efforts and it comes much easier. Who wants to rev to 8000 rpm with all the extra stress that it puts on the engine when you can get it at 6000rpm? I get around 190bhp at 6000 rpm with my set up.

 

It'd produce a lot more with a cam change and running on 50's, but I've got what I need so I'm happy.

[Mk2Jo]

Good Luck Mr G ...... reckon you should go for the 2.2

[BIG G]

just got to get some rods now........fiesta i thinks

[Vista]

just got to get some rods now........fiesta i thinks

 

Thems the ones, Fiesta or mk 3 escort as long as it's the 1.6D NA engine.

 

Here's some I prepared earlier

 

 

Unfortunately these ones aren't available as they're doing the business in my motor

[BIG G]

cheers vista there the ones are all fiesta diesels 1.6

[Mr Sam]

arent some 1.8/1.9?

[BIG G]

sam or anyone is there a way of tellin the different fiesta diesel engines apart from boot badges

[Vista]

cheers vista there the ones are all fiesta diesels 1.6

 

All diesel mk2 Fiestas and Mk3 escorts were fitted with a 1.6Diesel engine. These are the ones to look out for and they're attracting a premium, I think mine cost me about £100. Want me to look out for a set for you?

 

The later ones that Sam mentions are no good

[BIG G]

Cheers vista i have got a massive scrappy here give me an excuse to get up there but after the wedding as been banned from gettin dirty finger nails but if you find any thats would be great

[cossieglen]

I only paid £130 for my forged steel Cossie rods, for the little bit extra it might be worth looking out for set of those? I got mine on ebay.

 

Only difference is that the rod length is slightly longer however, so this will probably mean different pistons. I bought forged ones myself anyway, due to the compression I'm going to be running, and the revs.

[Vista]

I only paid £130 for my forged steel Cossie rods, for the little bit extra it might be worth looking out for set of those? I got mine on ebay.

 

Only difference is that the rod length is slightly longer however, so this will probably mean different pistons. I bought forged ones myself anyway, due to the compression I'm going to be running, and the revs.

 

Isn't the big end journal diameter the same or similar to a pinto one? The reason for using the diesel rods isn't just strength, it's because the big end journal they need is smaller ( X- flow size) this allows offset grinding of the crank for a longer stroke and therefore more cubes

 

oh and compression wise diesel rods can handle pretty much anything, compression ignition engine after all.

[cossieglen]

Ah I see, I didn't realise they were going for a stroked lump, just bored to 2.1 or something. Yes the big end journal size is the same I believe, but I have a cosworth crank too so isn't actually a factor for me, I'll just be getting that ground -0.025" and the block bored +0.090" to give me 2.1L.

 

Yeah the fiesta diesel rods are good, I used to run some in my old pinto years ago, but I don't think they were the 1.6 ones as I didn't have to have them modified to fit. The only limiting factor really is out and out revs I suppose, but will probably still be good for 7000-7250rpm? I used to rev mine to that anyway, and it didn't blow up on me I've gone for the cosworth bottom end for its strength and reliability at higher revs, as I'll be taking my new engine to 8250rpm

[Jeff HPE Motorsport]

2.2 or 2.1 that is the question started buying odds n sods. where will i get my crank tuftrided locally down south im so excited about getting goin upwards of 175 is the bhp target and 8000rpm screamin pinto ye ha

 

We have 2.1s running mid to low 12s. I`m a Big Head. Oh sorry Dan..

 

 

 

Jeff Harris..