Music file sharing

[Vista]

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Now I know technically this is theft, but personally it's one theft that really doesn't excite me. Nor do I really feel a great deal of sympathy for the fabulously wealthy artists and music moguls and companies that make such a big song and dance about being stolen from.

 

The way I see it is that my music taste is pretty out of date now, in fact I don't think I've bought a CD by a modern artist in years. So many of the discs in my collection I have now paid for three times as I've bought them on tape, on vinyl and on CD. Some may ask why buy on tape and vinyl? Well we didn't have record players in cars and the quality of recording you got with 70's and 80's equipment was naff unless you had really expensive stuff (I didn't )

 

Now when CDs first came out they were marketed as virtually indestructable. In fact I think I remember some bit of tottie spreading jam on one on tomorrows world . But the truth is (as I'm assuming most people know) that CD's very much have a shelf life and once they're knackered you end up having to buy the same sodding one again!

 

Now it looks like they're all frantically working on the replacement for the CD, it looks like I'm going to have to buy my ageing Led Zeppelin / AC/DC / Maiden / etc collection all over again! And to quote another rich artist "That don't impress me much!!!"

 

So my question to anyone connected to the music industry reading this is: -

 

"Why should anyone be prosecuted for downloading songs for free if they've already purchased the right to listen to those songs several times?"

[Jimbob-Squarepants ©]

I feel the same about it mate. If I already have the record on another fomat, such as Vinyl or Cassette, then I already own the right to own that record.

 

But, I am one of these wierd people who actually like to own original copies of singles or albums, whether they are on CD, Vinyl or Cassette. I use Limewire and Itunes for downloading records, Limewire being for records that have not been on sale for years. I use Itunes for any modern singles that people would expect to be played when I DJ, these are the same records which I wouldn't want to go out and buy just because I get a case and insert. I pay 79p for a single download, and it gets stored on my poota without taking up physical space on my shelves.

 

You are right about CD's DVD's having a shelf life, they recon it's about 20 years, after which, the data held on it will start to deteriorate. I am having a long labourious job of transferring all my 12" vinyl, CD's (Music and poota programs) to computer. I don't want to think about the amount of data/records that I would loose if the discs become unreadable.

 

Saying that, I have a few music CD's that are 20 odd years old, and they still play perfectly.

 

Saying all of this though, I think any new bands/groups/artists should have their records payed for, but I can see the CD being left behind just like cassettes, due to the ever growing downloading of music. Shops will stop selling CD's, and instead sell vouchers which you pay for so that you can download the material when you get home.

 

I LOVE MY VINYL

 

*edit* Therefore my vote would be split 50/50

[Burns]

vista, i think you're alright if you own a hard copy of the record, i don't think that's actually copyright infringement, i think in that circumstance it's totally legal

 

whereas my music collection is the other side of the legal/illegal barrier...

 

edit: ps. have you seen that they've started selling singles/albums on memory sticks now rather than cd's

[Von Loxlee]

u have cd's that r 20 years old?

 

 

when did the first cd come out? i never knew it was before i was even born!

[ZetecVan 2.0]

u have cd's that r 20 years old?

 

 

when did the first cd come out? i never knew it was before i was even born!

 

The cd came out in 1982. I remember a lad at school coming in with a Duran Duran one just after they came out! Everyone took the piss!

 

My music collection is half and half. I've converted a load of my CDs into MP3s and put them on my PC. I've downloaded a load of albums that I have got on tape. I've also downloaded a few albums that I don't own.

 

I know what jimbob is saying about having to own the album. I wouldn't do that with albums, but I do that with DVDs. I've downloaded quite a few films (including Ratatouille about a month before it came out on the big screen). I tend to treat them like 'shareware'. I download it, watch it, and if I like it, I'll go out and buy it. If I think it's crap, I delete it. I also download TV programs that I've missed. It's just like an on demand video recorder. I downloaded all the episodes of The IT Crowd after they've been on TV, but I know I'll be buying the box set very soon. Infact if you read Graham Linehams blog (the guy who wrote it), he encourages you to download the episodes, provided you buy the DVD if you like it. That's a very forward way of thinking.

[Vista]

The cd came out in 1982. I remember a lad at school coming in with a Duran Duran one just after they came out! Everyone took the piss!

 

 

You took the piss for owning a CD or for it specifically being a Duran Duran CD? I know at my school Duran Duran were very much a girls band (Take that / Boy zone of their day I guess) and no self respecting lad would admit to liking them for fear of being branded a hatter.

 

25 years later however I'm happy to come out as a closet durany

[Burns]

The cd came out in 1982. I remember a lad at school coming in with a Duran Duran one just after they came out! Everyone took the piss!

 

 

You took the piss for owning a CD or for it specifically being a Duran Duran CD? I know at my school Duran Duran were very much a girls band (Take that / Boy zone of their day I guess) and no self respecting lad would admit to liking them for fear of being branded a hatter.

 

25 years later however I'm happy to come out as a closet durany

 

[sambo]

I think its disgusting and should not be done.

So what if they are already rich (most quite simply are not), they still deserve to get paid for their hard work (that only applies to rock bands and artists with talent, steal all the dance, electro crap you want).

It's bloody hard work being in a band and could you imagine dedicating your life to something only for it to be stolen by someone whos whole music collection exists soley on the computer?! What would be the point of trying to be a rock star?? If people could download music for free legally, the whole romantic dream of being a rock star would die as thay would earn a pittance.

Makes me mad to say the least.

[Burns]

artists don't get much on each record. it'd make more sense if they did more tours, 10,000 people @ £30 a head for the big bands, you do the maths

[ZetecVan 2.0]

The cd came out in 1982. I remember a lad at school coming in with a Duran Duran one just after they came out! Everyone took the piss!

 

 

You took the piss for owning a CD or for it specifically being a Duran Duran CD? I know at my school Duran Duran were very much a girls band (Take that / Boy zone of their day I guess) and no self respecting lad would admit to liking them for fear of being branded a hatter.

 

25 years later however I'm happy to come out as a closet durany

 

For owning a Duran Duran CD....

[Jimbob-Squarepants ©]

The cd came out in 1982. I remember a lad at school coming in with a Duran Duran one just after they came out! Everyone took the piss!

 

 

You took the piss for owning a CD or for it specifically being a Duran Duran CD? I know at my school Duran Duran were very much a girls band (Take that / Boy zone of their day I guess) and no self respecting lad would admit to liking them for fear of being branded a hatter.

 

25 years later however I'm happy to come out as a closet durany

 

 

King LOL

[Vista]

I think its disgusting and should not be done.

So what if they are already rich (most quite simply are not), they still deserve to get paid for their hard work (that only applies to rock bands and artists with talent, steal all the dance, electro crap you want).

It's bloody hard work being in a band and could you imagine dedicating your life to something only for it to be stolen by someone whos whole music collection exists soley on the computer?! What would be the point of trying to be a rock star?? If people could download music for free legally, the whole romantic dream of being a rock star would die as thay would earn a pittance.

Makes me mad to say the least.

 

That's a fair point, but what about the argument that I presented about being charged again and again for the same piece of music? I can think of a couple of must have albums (now there's an old skool term) that I've paid for four times. Bat out of Hell for instance, I've bought it on tape, vinyl and twice on CD. How many times is it fair to profit from the same piece of work?

[Vista]

 

You're looking mighty cute in them jeans boy!

[Jimbob-Squarepants ©]

Well, if this isn't a good advert for the downloading of music, I don't know what is...

 

It must be over 10 years ago now when I watched an old Top Gear, and they had a choooon playing in the background. I didn't know what it was called, or even who sung it. After years of trying to find out, I told myself I would never know.

 

Anyway, I was searching Limewire and Itunes looking for a completley different record, when I found that record from years back. I love Itunes because it lets you preview 20 secs of each track, and this is how I found my mystery record.

 

Looking on Limewire, there were 2 copies of it, but you know what, after 10 years of searching, I went on Itunes and payed my 79p for the download.

 

I love Itunes