OSF Electronic Ignition Question

[jimbo]

Hi All,

 

I asked this last night and it obviously was misread, beacuse it ended up in the OTHERS room :lol: I obviously was tired and didn't make any sense.

 

Please read carefully

 

 

Hi folks,

 

I can get my mitts on an electronic dizzy from a Mk1 XR2. Like this:

 

 

I know this physically fits my 1600 auto escort, but.......

 

Questions I have are:

 

- Apart from a matching coil, what else might I need?

- Where would the cable (as in the picture) run to?

- Would I need to get the curve reset?

 

Any help you can give is always greatly appreciated.

 

 

Some other points.....

 

- I need to replace my distributor as the old one is knackered, so fitting a kit isn't an option

- I've been offered the Mk 1 XR2 dizzy (in good condition) free of charge.

- I'm fitting it to a 1977 ESCORT 1600 Auto..... not an XR2.

 

So I have reposted this back in OSF chat? and has anyone else got some more appropriate advice about what I need to do to fit this dizzy?

 

Cheers,

Jim

[Jimbob-Squarepants ©]

It's the same as I said last night mate... doesn't matter if it's for a Fizz-Pop, Escort Mk1/Mk2, Anglia, Cortina, Crossflow or Pre Crossflow. It will bolt straight in.

 

If the distributor is the same as that pic, I think you will have probs. That looks to me like a Sierra electronic distributor as it doesn't have the module on the distributor body. Sierra's used an external module which was bolted to the front wing.

 

Fiesta distributors have the module bolted to the side of the distributor casing, will quite often be Lucas parts (Distributor and module), and the distributor body, rotor and cap arr also fitted to some BL cars e.g. Mini's and Mini-Metro's. The drives are different to BL, and so are the modules... the BL cars had a 2 pin module, whereas the Fords had 3, the extra being a proper earth

[Vista]

Apologies I moved it as I saw it as a technical question and often they get missed in OSF chat as the posts move down so fast. I think maybe there should be a room for electrical / electronic / ignition stuff and will propose it for discussion. In fairness I did leave a link to it in OSF chat (didn't I? )

[Burns]

or perhaps the engine room?

[jimbo]

You did leave a link Vista. Although in my naivety, I didn't know how long it stays there, or I guess how effective it is......Do links just stay on like normal messages.

 

I picked OSF Chat to post cos' I couldn't decide if it should go fiesta/escort or engine......It seemed a tricky fellow to categorise so I went as general as I could. In hindsight maybe engines was best, because whatever the situation it's gonna come from/go to an x-flow lump. Feel free to move it there

 

Anyhow BTTT......The pic came from an ebay sale for xr2 dizzy, and it looks like the one I remember being fitted to fezzers. What I couldn't remember is where the module sat, so I think you've got a point Jimbob, that it should have an external one. I'm waiting on a reply from the guy giving me the dizzy to see if a module comes with it.

 

If I have to pick up a module separately, what should be the donor car, or would they all have the same curves programmed? Or is it quite easy (and cheap) to get em reprogrammed? Sorry about all the questions. Moving away from points is quite a big step for a Luddite like me

[Jimbob-Squarepants ©]

You can't program a module i'm afraid... it's proper name is an ignition amplifier. Basically there is a 4 blade rotor underneath the rotor arm in the distributor which also has a pick up. The tiny pulse generated by the rotor as it passes the pick up is sent to the amplifier where it is... amplified for the coil... hey presto, a spark comes out of the coil

 

If you happen to need an external amplifier, get the one off the same car if you can, if not, I don't see why it wouldn't work with a Seirra unit. I made a wiring diagram for this converstion when I converted my old Capri, I still have it, so if you need it give me a shout

[Ratters]

i used to have the bosch one from the later 'ohv' engines [mk2 fes/mk3&4 esc] & that was different to the one you have pictured there.

[jimbo]

You can't program a module i'm afraid... it's proper name is an ignition amplifier. Basically there is a 4 blade rotor underneath the rotor arm in the distributor which also has a pick up. The tiny pulse generated by the rotor as it passes the pick up is sent to the amplifier where it is... amplified for the coil... hey presto, a spark comes out of the coil

 

If you happen to need an external amplifier, get the one off the same car if you can, if not, I don't see why it wouldn't work with a Seirra unit. I made a wiring diagram for this converstion when I converted my old Capri, I still have it, so if you need it give me a shout

 

Ah OK.... I'm getting it now

 

Just had a reply back. Yep it has a module....Dizzy comes from 1980 XR2 (1.6 crossflow engine) Sounds like it will do the job.

 

Just realised the bit I'm talking about programming is the advance curve, but if it comes from a 1.6 xflow and is going to a 1.6 x-flow, I shouldn't have any probs............should I

 

Your wiring diagram would be really useful. I've pm'd you my e-mail addy

[Fiesta Steve]

 

Fiesta distributors have the module bolted to the side of the distributor casing,

 

Incorrect Jimboob

 

The Mk1 XR2 has an external amplifer bolted to the nearside inner wing called a 'DURASPARK', and they are 'tough tested' or it says so on the tin anyhoy

 

'Programming in the advance curve' is done mechanically inside the dizzy, but as you say if its going in a standard 1600 it won't be necessary.

 

[Jimbob-Squarepants ©]

Ah cheers Steve, I stand corrected

 

That sounds like the same system my 2.8i has... i'm sure thats a Dura-Spark

[Fiesta Steve]

Ah cheers Steve, I stand corrected

 

That sounds like the same system my 2.8i has... i'm sure thats a Dura-Spark

 

Probably m8, same era

[jimbo]

As Columbo says "Just one more thing"

 

Can I use any coil from a leccy ignition Ford. Is there a certain "special" car I should look for at the scrapper that'll give me one with more oomph!!

 

Thanks for all your help on this guys much appreciated.

[Fiesta Steve]

Any coil