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I was travelling down on the m1 to Coventry yesterday to look at a bike. Derbyshire/Nottingham area there is 15 miles (ish) of the M1 where its all roadworks and there is a 50mph speed limit with average speed check cameras.

 

So I am sitting in the middle lane doing bang on 50 mph, using the sat nav as a speedo as its more accurate than the one in the car. The road is very busy with vehicles in all lanes, nearly everyone sitting at 50. A HGV comes up behind me, guessing he was doing 60 ish, and drives about 5 foot off the back of my bumper. He sits like this for a while, then starts flashing his lights, and eventually undertakes me while beeping his horn. Watched him as he went into the distance doing the same to others weaving in and out of traffic. I took his reg number and the company name off the back. So thinking emailing the company and letting them know what a twat of a driver they have employed.

 

Also seen another HGV weaving in and out, and this was an air products truck carring hydrogen! Also dont understand how they can get away with travelling so fast, I thought these yellow cameras tracked everyones average speed, so there was no escape from it.

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You should report him to the company and the rozzers.....

 

Negotiating 38 tonnes of vehicle and load comes with a duty of responsibility to do it safely, and they should be held to account if they fail to do so.

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Not condoning the lorry drivers or anything but the m1 near me in luton to london had roadworks and a 50 limit for 4 years with average speed cameras and i would nearly always creep up to 60 in my car and nothing ever happened and others used to overtake me as well, this isnt to say they dont work as my mate was told the cameras further down didnt work so he went through at normal speeds and got 3 points twice in two days haha :thumbsup:

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You should report him to the company and the rozzers.....

 

Negotiating 38 tonnes of vehicle and load comes with a duty of responsibility to do it safely, and they should be held to account if they fail to do so.

 

thats what I think mate, if I had to brake suddently, there was no way the truck could have stopped without going into me.

 

I wonder if those cameras were in use? I dont know if they just log the vehicles as they pass, or wether they film them

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a few weeks back a morrisons lorry T boned a small car in that 50mph section and this friday a morrisions lorry had brocken down in it slowing everything up again :roll:

 

 

but yes you gotta watch it round there saw a beemer doing exactly what you mentioned flashing lights to intimidate people get them to pull over....copper in the slow lane totally ignored it :evil::evil:

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I reported a dangerous lorry driver once. The police asked if i was prepared to make a statement (which I was), they told me they couldn't prosecute as it was just my word against his, but they would be contacting the driver and his company. (think it was DHL or someone like that). The copper said that in most cases the driver would lose their job, or at least be given a written warning.

If you feel strongly about it go for it. There is no excuse for driving a lorry wrecklessly. Too many lives are at risk when it goes wrong.

(I drive a lorry)

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Seem to remember something about those average cams only working on one lane, so if you swap lanes they can't catch you, that could be complete the round ones though :)

Andy.

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Seem to remember something about those average cams only working on one lane, so if you swap lanes they can't catch you, that could be complete hairy spheres though :)

Andy.

 

hairy spheres lol :) very clever

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Seem to remember something about those average cams only working on one lane, so if you swap lanes they can't catch you, that could be complete hairy spheres though :)

Andy.

 

hairy spheres lol :) very clever

i read that on here somewhere

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my friend (a taxi driver) said this to me... i don't see how they would let such an oversight happen though?? :?

 

 

report the bloke though mate! it is drivers like that which don't deserve a license!

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report him he sounds like a right fluffy bunny :thumbsup:

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This is apparently how they work (taken from another website):

 

One pair of cameras, one lane, one server. What they can do is stagger the cameras as long as no single pair of cameras in a set-up are beyond the maximum permissible distance, so imagine camera pairs as:

 

Not staggered on a dual carriageway:

 

Lane Pairs: ----------A----------A----------C----------C----------

Lane Pairs: ----------B----------B----------D----------D----------

 

So as you see from this part, you pass camera 'A' and swap lanes, the next camera you pass is B. You then move back to the inside lane and pass the first camera of pair 'C', you never go through a full pair, so never get caught.

 

But if the camera pairs are staggered on a dual carriageway:

 

Lane Pairs: ----------A----------C----------A----------C----------

Lane Pairs: ----------B----------D---------- B----------D----------

 

But as the second diagram shows, if you pass A and switch lanes, then after passing the start camera of pair 'D' on the next camera gantry in the outside lane you switch back to the inside lane, then your still being measured by camera pair 'A'! As you then change into the outside lane after passing the second camera in the 'A' pair the next camera you pass is the exit camera of the 'D' pairing! Double Oops!

 

So are the pairs staggered or not? Well do you feel lucky?

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You should report him to the company and the rozzers.....

 

Negotiating 38 tonnes of vehicle and load comes with a duty of responsibility to do it safely, and they should be held to account if they fail to do so.

 

so does being a car driver! i drive lorrys for a living and do not condone the driving of that mentioned by steve. but what about all the idiotic driving done by car drivers who undertake overtake (dangerously) just because they dont want to be behind a lorry. they can do what they like and were the easy King target becase were limited to 56mph slow to pull away and have a company name plasterd on the side :evil: i had some old codger on the m25 sittig at 50-53mph get up to him with fair gapp and over take gets up level the asshole pulls away done this to me twice then b4 had the same with a camper van then when they get run over it oh why you do well stop being a mary then. i was on the limiter both times at 56 so it wasnt me speeeding up and slowing down :finger:

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I work for a large lorry firm mate, let me tell you there is nothing like a member of the public ringing up and makeing a complaint about a bad driveing to but the fear of god up lorry drivers :twisted::twisted: Make that phone call :thumbsup::thumbsup:

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I also struggle on the roads, I have a merc sprinter, but its been restricted to 59 mph and its a nightmare, it used to do 75 mph, but someone in head office thinks it'll be green and save fuel if they cut the top speed. Its just got enough power to get past a HGV, so it takes a lot of concentration to drive now

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You should report him to the company and the rozzers.....

 

Negotiating 38 tonnes of vehicle and load comes with a duty of responsibility to do it safely, and they should be held to account if they fail to do so.

 

so does being a car driver! i drive lorrys for a living and do not condone the driving of that mentioned by steve. but what about all the idiotic driving done by car drivers who undertake overtake (dangerously) just because they dont want to be behind a lorry. they can do what they like and were the easy fooking target becase were limited to 56mph slow to pull away and have a company name plasterd on the side :evil: i had some old codger on the m25 sittig at 50-53mph get up to him with fair gapp and over take gets up level the asshole pulls away done this to me twice then b4 had the same with a camper van then when they get run over it oh why you do well stop being a turd then. i was on the limiter both times at 56 so it wasnt me speeeding up and slowing down :finger:

 

Fair point Jason......Plenty of numpties out there in all forms of transport.

 

I strive to be a conscientious driver, and always give people making a mistake the benefit of the doubt. For instance, you never know how long they've been on the road, or how well they know the roads in the area, etc.

 

But driving like you describe.....no excuse :roll: Guess they learn the hard way in a ditch or under the wheel of an artic :(

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