Admin Mk2Jo Posted July 9, 2009 Admin Report Posted July 9, 2009 So .... I bought the "new skool" Focus ST170 (02 plate) to replace my ageing Subaru. I needed to look at something that was newer, more economical, cheaper on parts etc. Bought in Dec from a main dealer who took it as part ex, full service history, 29,500 miles on the clock etc, etc. Clutch has been a bit noisy recently and the clutch pedal has been vibrating (to be honest I am sure it was doing it when I bought it) so I took it to a local guy who I have known for many years. He said it sounded like the clutch release bearing and so I left it with him. He phones me up and says that unfortunately it is a dual mass flywheel jobbie and the whole thing comes as a kit. So I have no option but to get it done ..... he told me the price and said it was a 5 hour job. Picked the car up last night ... he says he thought someone (mechanic/garage) had been in there before because the wiring was not placed back where it should be and there was copper grease on parts that would not be there from factory and also one of the bolts on the bell housing (I think he said) was not done up properly. Flywheel and clutch were completely mullered and it's not my hard driving that's done it !! So ... I am now £923.00 lighter !!!!!!!!!! Fooking pain in the aRSe expensive poxy ST !!!! It's not even like it's a nippy little car .... I am extremely disappointed with it to be honest! Thank God for credit cards! (Breakdown for the bill is 5 hours @ £49.95 on the labour ... the rest is parts and VAT!). THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS: DON'T BY A FOCUS ST, THEY'RE NOT WORTH THE MONEY!
Admin Vista Posted July 9, 2009 Admin Report Posted July 9, 2009 I've heard a number of bad reports about those dua mass flyhwheels failing, there was someone over the road at TS facing a similar problem with a Mundaneo.
Admin Mk2Jo Posted July 9, 2009 Author Admin Report Posted July 9, 2009 As far as I know it is the Mondeo engine that they put in the Focus
FredTransit Posted July 9, 2009 Report Posted July 9, 2009 The DMF is notorious in the transit too, if you want to piss off somebody with a Mk6, ask em if they have checked their starter for bits of metal lately . BTW Jo, that might be the next thing on the list..... Debris from the DMF breaking down gums up the starter.
Chris! Posted July 9, 2009 Report Posted July 9, 2009 That will teach you, use your rs and sell the st
Admin Mk2Jo Posted July 9, 2009 Author Admin Report Posted July 9, 2009 The RS is not really a daily driver though Should have just kept the Scooby
lotusless Posted July 9, 2009 Report Posted July 9, 2009 bloody hell jo that must have hurt!!!! + there's me worrying how i'm gonna afford to replace my steering box on my daily 16E i think ive overused they old girl lately + it cant handle it
Admin Mk2Jo Posted July 9, 2009 Author Admin Report Posted July 9, 2009 Mate .... I can't afford it It's gone on the plastic as I had no choice but to get it done
Daggle Posted July 9, 2009 Report Posted July 9, 2009 Never had a problem with the clutch on mine, however make sure you don't drop it down a pothole and bottom out the exhaust manifold. That expensive mistake cost me a grand on a new cat.
FredTransit Posted July 9, 2009 Report Posted July 9, 2009 So ... I am now £923.00 lighter !!!!!!!!!! Sod that, if that had been a standard Mk2, you could have bodged it with some string and wire till you could afford to pay cash!
JP. Posted July 9, 2009 Report Posted July 9, 2009 Well thats the reason we use 25year+ Fords as a daily. Cheap insurance, cheap maintanance ( payed a tenner for a new clutch plate on CFS) and if it let you down in the midlle of nowhere a screwdriver and a hammer is all that you'll need to get it running again ( most of the times). We have 6 Capri's and an old Pickup and its all pre 80's stuff. Here in Holland its even taxfree cause its 25+ age. MOT once in the two years for 30+ age ( all exept one for us). Have a shedload of parts on spare found on shows and events for allmost nothing. You'll know you'll see a part for cheap, don't need it now but its cheap so buy it cause you'll never know in the future...... Mom is driving new cars and complaning about the costs for maintenace and so on. With our seven cars and three motorbikes we are not even close to the costs she pays a year to keep her VW whatever on the road. So Old Skool cars for us only. Keeps us smiling each time.
Boreham Posted July 9, 2009 Report Posted July 9, 2009 our "Daily Driver " is a 2001 TDDI 115 BHP zetec Mondeo.... and aparently has ther same /similar type clutch.. mention earlier.. It's demise is imminant.... €1400 here to get it done... car is worth...€3500... recently the Fuel Lift pump.. went... €650 + vat from dealer... got it on E bay for €140 delivered.. but "Goldie" provided the transport for the 2 weeks it was off the road... and didn't miss a beat.. if yer doing high milage.. it's understandable to...opt for newer motor... but anything sub 10K miles a year..I'd be going OLDSKOOL but.... dosen't agree... [/img]
Mr Sam Posted July 9, 2009 Report Posted July 9, 2009 here here Jo, just far too much gubbins to go wrong on them and when something does go wrong its about the last thing possible to get at my Si daily has packed in, think its just the crank sensor but getting at the ruddy thing think id rather just scrap it and carry on using the mk1 as my daily
vibrating_Cake Posted July 9, 2009 Report Posted July 9, 2009 What's a crank sensor? the guy at the traffic lights tellin u ur wrong in the head... you crank! he senced you coming =)
glenbo Posted July 9, 2009 Report Posted July 9, 2009 The DMF is notorious in the transit too, if you want to piss off somebody with a Mk6, ask em if they have checked their starter for bits of metal lately . BTW Jo, that might be the next thing on the list..... Debris from the DMF breaking down gums up the starter. YOU CAN GET A CONVERSION ON THE TRANSIT SO YOU CAN USE PINTO CLUTCH SET-UP,SO IVE BEEN TOLD
baz105e Posted July 9, 2009 Report Posted July 9, 2009 we have lots of ford with dmf's in at work (mainly taxis) and more often than not the flywheel goes before the clutch ! wtf
emu Posted July 9, 2009 Report Posted July 9, 2009 Dual mass flywheels are a load of gash. I imagine that the manufacturers will tell you that it makes the car smoother or something, but who can honestly tell the difference? Very few people I imagine. The only difference they know about is the impact on the wallet. One of the aftermarket parts manufacturers (QH I think ) now make conventional flywheel/clutch combinations to replace dual masses.
FredTransit Posted July 9, 2009 Report Posted July 9, 2009 The DMF is notorious in the transit too, if you want to piss off somebody with a Mk6, ask em if they have checked their starter for bits of metal lately . BTW Jo, that might be the next thing on the list..... Debris from the DMF breaking down gums up the starter. YOU CAN GET A CONVERSION ON THE TRANSIT SO YOU CAN USE PINTO CLUTCH SET-UP,SO IVE BEEN TOLD I don't know about that, but Valeo have produced a replacement solid flywheel kit, but er, I won't be needing one....
garyv6100e Posted July 9, 2009 Report Posted July 9, 2009 My old company car a MG ZT got through 3 cluthes in 45000 miles and each time it needed a new Dual Mass Flywheel which alone cost £365 as well as the cost of the clutch and labour no wonder you see so many 10 year old cars in the breakers yard no one can afford to fix them
Fiesta Steve Posted July 9, 2009 Report Posted July 9, 2009 As above, best bet is to ditch the DMF and fit a standard flywheel, about £30 from the breakers.
4parajon Posted July 10, 2009 Report Posted July 10, 2009 Thats bad news Jo, but at least your sorted now. A friend of mine has recently been fleeced on his Toyota Rav 4 for a new clutch, was £1300
Admin Mk2Jo Posted July 10, 2009 Author Admin Report Posted July 10, 2009 I am just wondering what else is gonna go wrong with it. I was very surprised that at 35,000 miles it has gone already .... I am honestly considering getting rid of it now
vibrating_Cake Posted July 10, 2009 Report Posted July 10, 2009 one reason i chose the zetec clutch=35quid for housing release bearing and friction plate, and fitting with a type 9 gearbox on a capri is an afternoon job, couple of hours. also, any other part for the capri is cheap... bar the diff, but what cars have cheaper diffs? only thing i spend on "maintaining" is time and elbow grease on catching up on rust here there and everywhere.... oh and petrol... damn carbies! =o)
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