escort new boy Posted February 21, 2010 Report Posted February 21, 2010 Anyone in the forces? Really considering going in. Been looking on the website an what not, engineering side of things. Anyone got any thoughts on it? Cheers Jack.
Trevmk3 Posted February 21, 2010 Report Posted February 21, 2010 its always worth it from what i have heard, ive even considered it myself even now
Fiesta Steve Posted February 21, 2010 Report Posted February 21, 2010 I heard the pay is poor ? Is that right ?
escort new boy Posted February 21, 2010 Author Report Posted February 21, 2010 from what i can tell id start off on £13000, which is peanuts but the prospect of working up is there
stevepeanut Posted February 21, 2010 Report Posted February 21, 2010 one of my best mates, left school and did 10 years in the navy, he really loved it. He's seen the world, theres so many places and countries he's been to. He's got some great stories and been through some amazing experiences. If you are young and have no ties, go for it. Sometimes wish I had done something like that
Trevmk3 Posted February 21, 2010 Report Posted February 21, 2010 I heard the pay is poor ? Is that right ? pay is poor, good pension, and room to progress to better payed jobs
escort new boy Posted February 21, 2010 Author Report Posted February 21, 2010 Im 17 with nothing holding me down, have requested a call back so we will see what happens
Admin Vista Posted February 21, 2010 Admin Report Posted February 21, 2010 I spent 16 years in the RN as an engineer, what are you thinking of joining as? The branch structure may well have changed since I left in 2002 but if the term is still applicable and you have the grades then look to join as an artificer or engineering officer. Engineering training is very good but you get a lot more than just the engineering side of it. Leadership and management skills are also part and parcel of the training and stand you well in later life. The pay in all of the services is reasonable but it's made better by a generous leave allowance that is more than you'll get working as a civilian, a good non contributory pension scheme, health care benefits and all sorts of very reasonably priced (or free) extra curricular activities in sporting and outdoors activities type fields. Oh and one more thing, the RN is the only one of the three services to take a bar to the front line
escort new boy Posted February 21, 2010 Author Report Posted February 21, 2010 I spent 16 years in the RN as an engineer, what are you thinking of joining as? The branch structure may well have changed since I left in 2002 but if the term is still applicable and you have the grades then look to join as an artificer or engineering officer. Engineering training is very good but you get a lot more than just the engineering side of it. Leadership and management skills are also part and parcel of the training and stand you well in later life. The pay in all of the services is reasonable but it's made better by a generous leave allowance that is more than you'll get working as a civilian, a good non contributory pension scheme, health care benefits and all sorts of very reasonably priced (or free) extra curricular activities in sporting and outdoors activities type fields. Oh and one more thing, the RN is the only one of the three services to take a bar to the front line Thats the problem i wasnt the best behaved at school, i have a gcse in english an maths an 5 equivalents in IT. this is what ive been looking at... http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/careers/exp ... s-the-job/ Cheers Jack.
RossMK2 Posted February 21, 2010 Report Posted February 21, 2010 well i am applying for a apprentaship with DSG (defense support group) slightly different thing but is really good pay and is a great apprentaship the pay is £11,250 a year for the apprentaship and for me coming out of school and going into a apprentaship ad pay like that i would be so happy hope you get sorted mate
V8ian Posted February 21, 2010 Report Posted February 21, 2010 I did a non MOD engineering Apprenticeship, The firm I worked for was a MOD subcontractor. Did loads of work on type 42s 21s & 22s as well as different MOD boats, even went around the world working on the general marine side of things. When I finished my apprenticeship, I looked into joining the the Navy as an Articifer, also looked at the Royal marines (engineers] still Navy, 2 other options were there as well, one was the Fire Brigade, and the other was Fleet Street, well the lure of good money won over the chance to sail the world. BTW, just so you know, there is NO MINIUM WAGE for apprentices until the age of 26,
Admin Vista Posted February 22, 2010 Admin Report Posted February 22, 2010 I spent 16 years in the RN as an engineer, what are you thinking of joining as? The branch structure may well have changed since I left in 2002 but if the term is still applicable and you have the grades then look to join as an artificer or engineering officer. Engineering training is very good but you get a lot more than just the engineering side of it. Leadership and management skills are also part and parcel of the training and stand you well in later life. The pay in all of the services is reasonable but it's made better by a generous leave allowance that is more than you'll get working as a civilian, a good non contributory pension scheme, health care benefits and all sorts of very reasonably priced (or free) extra curricular activities in sporting and outdoors activities type fields. Oh and one more thing, the RN is the only one of the three services to take a bar to the front line Thats the problem i wasnt the best behaved at school, i have a gcse in english an maths an 5 equivalents in IT. this is what ive been looking at... http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/careers/exp ... s-the-job/ Cheers Jack. I don't think you can join as an artificer any more anyway. Everybody that wants to be an engineer joins as an engineering technician (read that as a fitter if you ask me). Speak to the careers adviser about what opportunities there are now for advancement as an artificer. Fleet Air Arm eh? WAFU B'stards (get used to that phrase ) Seriously though, joining the fleet air arm as an eng tech will give you a good trade. the downside is that they don't travel as often as general service. You could end up spending a lot of your career in a UK based naval air station such as Culdrose or Yeovilton.. Oh and one more thing not to forget, at the end of a military apprenticeship you are guaranteed a career for as long as you want it. Not the same in a civilian equivalent. Oh and the guy servicing that Lynx Gas Turbine engine in the photo at the link you posted is actually a Petty Officer. It'll be some time before you'd be let loose alone on one of them so it's a bit misleading of them posting a pic like that. Same can be said for the guy in the cockpit working on the electronics.
914Driver Posted February 22, 2010 Report Posted February 22, 2010 Not the same Navy, but I spent four years as a cook on a U.S. Submarine. Benefits: When I bought a house I got an excemption on taxes. $2000 less in taxes for ten years = free money. I work for the Government now. My very first day on the job, if they had a lay off I would stay and a non Veteran with 50 years service gets the door, I stay. As a Gevernment employee my military time counts toward retirement, @ 56 years old I have 37 years service. I saw things and went to places I would not have seen otherwise. When I got out of the military I was allowed $____ of free college, I don't recall the amount. At 17 years old I didn't know what to do with my life, I didn't want to spend time in college only to find out my particular career choice sucked. I had a good time, your mileage may vary. Dan
radar tech Posted February 22, 2010 Report Posted February 22, 2010 i am currently serving in the RAF . i would recomend it to anyone but go for engineering trades.
sampedlar06 Posted February 22, 2010 Report Posted February 22, 2010 do it mate i wash i had joined the army when i left school. i know have to much responsibility here
914Driver Posted February 22, 2010 Report Posted February 22, 2010 Additional input: My Dentist was in the Navy. He says when you get out of school you have to buy into someone's business to get started. Then you spend years drilling and filling before you get any real work. In the Navy he got full controls, accident victim reconstruction and experience you just can't buy on the outside. Perhaps your experience will be similar. Oh, and they paid for his dental school. Dan
Admin Vista Posted February 22, 2010 Admin Report Posted February 22, 2010 Additional input: My Dentist was in the Navy. He says when you get out of school you have to buy into someone's business to get started. Then you spend years drilling and filling before you get any real work. In the Navy he got full controls, accident victim reconstruction and experience you just can't buy on the outside. Perhaps your experience will be similar. Oh, and they paid for his dental school. Dan Not the same in the British military. RN quacks and dentists are just civilians who have done a quick knife and spoon course at BRNC to prepare them for the "complexities of wardroom life" The British military can barely afford to buy essential combat equipment let alone train it's own Dr's and Dentists!
914Driver Posted February 22, 2010 Report Posted February 22, 2010 Thanks, you saved me from enlisting.
escort new boy Posted February 22, 2010 Author Report Posted February 22, 2010 Been on the phone, got an apointment on the 29th march
914Driver Posted February 22, 2010 Report Posted February 22, 2010 Been on the phone, got an apointment on the 29th march Good for you. It's so much more satisfying sitting 5 miles off shore and lobbing in shells than doing the hand to hand combat stuff.
emu Posted February 22, 2010 Report Posted February 22, 2010 I don't think you can join as an artificer any more anyway. Everybody that wants to be an engineer joins as an engineering technician (read that as a fitter if you ask me). Speak to the careers adviser about what opportunities there are now for advancement as an artificer. The last Artificer class passed out a week or so ago. http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/gosport/Icy ... 6069542.jp I know a couple of lads who joined up after school and they still really enjoy it. Good luck on for the 29th
escort new boy Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Posted March 31, 2010 Went along on the 29th, got a few forms to fill in. It seems a long winded process but should be worth it
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