Guest cortinamad-gonetoo Posted April 2, 2010 Report Posted April 2, 2010 my rear springs on my cortina are just standard springs chopped they passed the mot the car sits well looks good all round (fronts are proper burton power lowering springs) just leave it as it is or buy proper rear lowering springs
antz Posted April 2, 2010 Report Posted April 2, 2010 cut springs = gay and unsafe lowering springs = safe and the proper way to do it Some people argue they are safe but I dont buy it. Personally I would never ever get in a a car with cut springs let alone drive one
Guest cortinamad-gonetoo Posted April 2, 2010 Report Posted April 2, 2010 cut springs = gay and unsafelowering springs = safe and the proper way to do it Some people argue they are safe but I dont buy it. Personally I would never ever get in a a car with cut springs let alone drive one you calling me gay antz
5hane Posted April 2, 2010 Report Posted April 2, 2010 you calling me gay antz it all depends. How much spring did you cut ? if your xmemeber is like this : (fellas daily drive!) then you pass. Any less. Im afraid...
Guest cortinamad-gonetoo Posted April 2, 2010 Report Posted April 2, 2010 no the fronts are proper lowering springs its the rears and they still sit in there cups ok too
Copey Posted April 2, 2010 Report Posted April 2, 2010 tbh dave i would buy some and do it properly, for peace of mind more than anything they may have gone through an MOT ok, but then the MOT man may not have noticed them choped springs may be "safe enough" but i would think that with it being a daily car and havin your family in it "safe enough" wouldn't be "enough" plus proper lowerin springs will give a better ride too
stevepeanut Posted April 2, 2010 Report Posted April 2, 2010 I would buy new ones Dave, if you are in the car on your own and dont mind the risk thats cool, but if you have the missus and kids in, best to buy correct springs. Only saying this cos I watched that chop shop show on tv, and they cut some springs, they were just about to run the car on a race circuit, and one of the spring ends popped out. Not the end of the world at slow speed, but it could cause a major accident if it popped at motorway speeds.
81-cortina Posted April 2, 2010 Report Posted April 2, 2010 I was always told never to cut springs. Its a safety issue. buying the correct fitment, would as a few have already mentioned give piece of mind especially if you carry your family. Never compromise with your family's safety
bortaf Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 How many coils you cut off? Any more than the soft first coil i'd replace em personly but TBH i've run cut spring for well over the normal life of most car parts with no trouble on a corty. Are the rear coils loose on full drop? the shocks limit the suss travel on the rear and if the springs are loose with them fully extended i'd deffo change to aftermarket but if the springs are still tight with them fully out i wouldn't worry about them falling out The only time i've ever had a rear spring fall out was after some shitebag nicked me spax rear shocks one night and both the rears fell out at the first speedhump the next morning but they had 3 or 4 coils off and were losse on full drop When you cut a spring it's rate goes up so you may find (if you've chopped a few coils out) that the aftermarket springs are actually softer than those you have chopped
Fiesta Steve Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 How do you think they get the spring to the desired length at the factory, they cut them We're all gonna die
Guest cortinamad-gonetoo Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 cant remember how many i cut out 2 or 3 but its been like that for well over a year just wondered on your lots opinion looks like ill go with ordering proper lowering springs
Stu_B Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 Unless you're an Engineer & fully understand spring rates & the effect that chopping them will have how can you say it's dangerous or safe?! I've run chopped springs on my cars with no probs, as you remove coils they get progressively stiffer. As long as the end of the spring isn't pointing off in a weird direction or it's so short it falls out at full travel I wouldn't worry
Guest cortinamad-gonetoo Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 theyve always sat in ok and no funny points or angle it feels about same stiffness as front ill order some when i next use burtons but like i said earlier its been like that for well over a year
bortaf Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 When they cut em in the factory they use hydrolic cutters like the jaws of life, it's the heat that changes the propertys of a spring so usuing a cutting disc rather than a grinding disc is the safer option in that respect. I did over 100,000 miles on cut springs but as i say they only had the thinner progressive rate coils cut off
Guest cortinamad-gonetoo Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 what do you mean (thinner progressive rate coils) i cut the end (with a cutting disc) that sits on to the axle not the end that the car body/chassis sits on ???
Streetfighter Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 This week on my MK1 Cortina I fitted 2.8 Capri rear leaves (I'v no idea where all this bullsh*t about having to make bushes and sleeves came from, if anyone's interested I can give the real story behind it) and I also fitted Burton -3 inch lowering springs up front, and I can safely say that she handles like a beast and feels as smooth and as planted as any IFS/IRS modern silver box. Do it properly and don't worry later on down the line
bortaf Posted April 4, 2010 Report Posted April 4, 2010 You cut the small end off that locates it onto the arm not the big top end where is seats in a rubber seat we are talking rear here aint we ? i would never cut the bottoms on the rear allways the top cos the top mount is pigtailed so lopping a coil off means it still seats correctly (on Mk5s the top coils are thinner to give progressive rate springs) cutting the bottom means it can slide about on the mount thats why the bottom coils is smaller to locate it on the arm
Guest cortinamad-gonetoo Posted April 4, 2010 Report Posted April 4, 2010 i cant remember i will have to look but it was you i asked at the time so it should be the way you do it i remember it sitting in ok not sliding about so i think i did it like you say i just didnt understand what you were on about with the progressive rate but think i do now im a bit slow sometimes
bortaf Posted April 4, 2010 Report Posted April 4, 2010 i cant remember i will have to look but it was you i asked at the time so it should be the way you do it i remember it sitting in ok not sliding about so i think i did it like you say i just didnt understand what you were on about with the progressive rate but think i do now im a bit slow sometimes Your slow ? i don't even remember you asking if your slow then i'm in fooking reverse
Guest cortinamad-gonetoo Posted April 4, 2010 Report Posted April 4, 2010 i cant remember i will have to look but it was you i asked at the time so it should be the way you do it i remember it sitting in ok not sliding about so i think i did it like you say i just didnt understand what you were on about with the progressive rate but think i do now im a bit slow sometimes Your slow ? i don't even remember you asking if your slow then i'm in fooking reverse you have slept since then
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