anti theft

[robo0121]

A simple hidden switch to the coil stops the feckers from starting it.so the only other way of getting it away is tow or pick up.either of them two would look mighty suspicious in the early hours of the morning..i know they will stop at nothing if they want it but stoplocks are a waste of money.the thief can see it and know that once its smashed off theyre away.but finding a hidden switch takes time and increases the risk of a neighbour .the police or even the local peeping tom spotting them..thats my opinion anyway.i have 3 classic cars and i live in an area that everytime you close a window you risk trapping some fuckas fingers in .but to date..all good...

[5tox]

a hidden switch does seem a good idea, regardless of any security bits i'll soon be looking to insure the car during the build 'just in case'

if the robbing bastards want it, they'll take it by any means necessary

[mark reed ford]

If your car is valuable I suggest an electronic GPS tag hidden in the car, the way Ford classics are going up in value the more will be a target, at least that way you have a very good chance of getting it back. 

They are not cheep at around the £200 pound mark to buy and fit and around  £150 a year subscription but it then comes down to the risk your car is under, I'm lucky mine is in my garage which is in my house and my area is ok, I sympathise with anyone who has had their car taken by some scum bag but you have to decide how much your car means to you.

[Neon-rc]

i find that the car having no steering wheel whilst being on full lock, having a wheel or two missing or even being completely stripped makes it less attractive to thieves lol

 

aswell as being blocked in by 3 modern worthless cars

[Justmark]

A simple hidden switch to the coil stops the feckers from starting it.so the only other way of getting it away is tow or pick up.either of them two would look mighty suspicious in the early hours of the morning..i know they will stop at nothing if they want it but stoplocks are a waste of money.the thief can see it and know that once its smashed off theyre away.but finding a hidden switch takes time and increases the risk of a neighbour .the police or even the local peeping tom spotting them..thats my opinion anyway.i have 3 classic cars and i live in an area that everytime you close a window you risk trapping some fuckas fingers in .but to date..all good...

 mate forget kill switches and coils, when i was banger racing we had small switch panels with a few wires on that would run most cars, we had some wired up already with electric ignition also, the purpose of mine was to keep the same switch panel and just swap it from car to car so as to race , not theft but do you see how quick and easy it would be to take a car, just find the battery ignore everything else on the car and just plug the switch panel in and away you could go.3 wires most times,stop locks no good because the thieves either lift the car or more often drag it on the trailer after cutting the hand brake cable, i have dragged loads of cars out of gardens straight on to a trailer, they will put false plates on it , if your cars are valuable i see only the tracker as the best way and worth the money,i fitted car alarms when i left school in 1981 and kill switches did not work then so to expect them to safe guard a car that most of the country is after is not a good idea, gps ,thats how technology has moved forward.

[jethronoose]

Wire the thing up to a live DC current, when you hear the "AAARRRRGGGHH" and find them still attached to the live metal, bray them off with something wooden as not to get a shock yourself, maybe something you could take a run up with..... After all your saving them from a shock, im sure the police could see that?

 

Just had my car rifled, Audi A8, took camera activated satnav, Raybans, Recording driving camera, garage fob!!!!! (Immediately changed £65) and a load of cash... Oh and an older I Phone that was tracked to an address close by... Police not found anything yet! However my two pals around 6.3" and 6.4" have narrowed the search down to one of two people..... Only time will tell Eh! I suppose accidents happen now and again, especially on the street.... Scum $H!T BAGS!

[DT36]

Loving the care to "Bray them off" the electric source.

I run an Introduction to Worksop Safety about once a month at work and would like to add this to the Working with Power Tools section...

[jethronoose]

Feel free. My background is Electrical cable and buzz bar installation and thats what we would have done! Im now into safety now so pre planning of not getting a shock is a better route, however the original plan for releasing a sh!t B$G from a live DC current using a run up and wooden tool would definately get you off an assault charge, im sure......... Especially as it may have took 4 or 5 goes to release them.

[Justmark]

the only thing your forgetting is what to do with the other 2 or 3 of his mates. they are never on there own, a lot of cctv proves this, I have had 2 mk2 escorts stolen years ago, when the police actually found out who did it they gave me a court date, so I sent my wife in the court public gallery. This was because the guys name and address was given out, then when I had it me and 2 mates gave him a good hiding months latter at night after following him. But I can tell you I have known blokes from the track go lifting granadas 4  handed. this gave banger racers a lot of blame on cars that went and go missing in the classic ford scene. The thieves now are all clued up and stripping the cars because of there value and the more desirable they are the more thieves will become

[Daddio]

I'd like to know why you'd want to "bray them off" at all? Not your fault if the battery charger earthed to the shell AND you had forgotten the old nail in the house fusebox eh?

Practically speaking though, I'd suggest chaining your axle and front legs to the floor, albeit you'd need to concrete a lump into the drive if you can't use a garage with a concrete floorslab.

[racingbrett]

Bit of a late one now but reading through and just thought I would add to this thread. unfortunately even the gps trackers nowadays are pretty much redundant, all well and good apart from the fact that they are being fitted to more and more desirable cars so the crooks just carry a jammer. the gps has to transmit data somehow but until they find the tag the signal is jammed :/. Old cars don't have enough wires to rig in a decent alarm, if they are nicking old cars they also know this and carry a few lengths of wire with clips to get around any immobiliser.

 

kill switches and removing rotor arms may help, but again, easy to bridge out and the rotor arm is an old trick so determined crooks that steal to order carry a spare with them.

 

with my project nearing completion security is a subject that has been bugging me :/ I guess it comes down to making it as hard as possible and making it take time, failing that rig the tank with C4

[Danish]

Wire the thing up to a live DC current, 

 

DC. Nice choice.  

[CortinaLover1971]

Removing the drivers seat, steering wheel and putting a big snarling dog in the garage who's not been fed might help.....anyone used the tagging system AlfaDots? Marks up the whole car so parts are traceable . Might stop the breaker thieves?

[Justmark]

I don't see marking any parts a good idea because there are too many people willing to except cheap parts to do there own car, years ago dogs were just fed meat to keep them quiete or like my aunts yard dog smashed over the head with a big bar, you would need a real good dog to even scare the thieves,my experience is they still find ways, you have to try all ways you think to slow them down but like someone said they are even getting past gps,

[colr6]

If they want they will get it no matter what car it is or what system it's got fitted. There is always some tekno kid somewhere who can get past any imobaliser or tracker. Beware of tracker systems declared to ins companies that don't work,they will not pay out if vehicle is stolen. Speaking through experience of this!

[khanlad]

Ive got a 8 and half stone rotty, they would struggle if he was in the car because he'd probably be asleep on the drivers seat, no where for them to sit! ...............Thats if you could wake him up and get him out of bed and into the car in the first place?

[hamma469]

Wire the thing up to a live DC current, when you hear the "AAARRRRGGGHH" and find them still attached to the live metal, bray them off with something wooden as not to get a shock yourself, maybe something you could take a run up with..... After all your saving them from a shock, im sure the police could see that?

 

Just had my car rifled, Audi A8, took camera activated satnav, Raybans, Recording driving camera, garage fob!!!!! (Immediately changed £65) and a load of cash... Oh and an older I Phone that was tracked to an address close by... Police not found anything yet! However my two pals around 6.3" and 6.4" have narrowed the search down to one of two people..... Only time will tell Eh! I suppose accidents happen now and again, especially on the street.... Scum $H!T BAGS!

Creased when I read the "bray them off" Thought that's definitely a fellow geordie lol

[diffed]

Yup your all right GPRS & GSM tracker units are very easy to get around with blockers etc and most batterys only last a couple of days if even. I have been involved in this market for years now, The system you need is units that use GSM/GPRS and RF technologies, so there’s no continuous signal to scan for, no wires to cut and no tell-tale antenna to look for, meaning that there’s little to no chance of your unit being found and neutralised once it’s been secured within your vehicle. The units are also self-install so nobody but you knows where it’s fitted. The units will have a 24-hour call centre and we have a team of finders in UK, Ireland, France and other European countries to locate your pride and joy. Your insurance company should also give you a discount as they are Thatcham (Cat 7 Approved) and Sold Secure approved. 

 

We'll be at Ford Fair with an offer and will pass it on here once approved. 

[DT36]

Yup your all right GPRS & GSM tracker units are very easy to get around with blockers etc and most batterys only last a couple of days if even. I have been involved in this market for years now, The system you need is units that use GSM/GPRS and RF technologies, so there’s no continuous signal to scan for, no wires to cut and no tell-tale antenna to look for, meaning that there’s little to no chance of your unit being found and neutralised once it’s been secured within your vehicle. The units are also self-install so nobody but you knows where it’s fitted. The units will have a 24-hour call centre and we have a team of finders in UK, Ireland, France and other European countries to locate your pride and joy. Your insurance company should also give you a discount as they are Thatcham (Cat 7 Approved) and Sold Secure approved. 

 

We'll be at Ford Fair with an offer and will pass it on here once approved. 

Is this a one off lifetime purchase or does it have a yearly license fee tagged on?

[diffed]

£90.00 year after first year, but this still includes first find free. 

[colr6]

My experience of trackers. Vehicle stolen- tracker failed to work! Vehicle found tracker faulty spoke to ins how I would have stood if vehicle not found. They would NOT pay out because I had declared a tracker was fitted. Read through the tracker small print. Basically tough shit if it goes and tracker not worked! All trackers cancelled on insurance and cancelled all contracts

[diffed]

My experience of trackers. Vehicle stolen- tracker failed to work! Vehicle found tracker faulty spoke to ins how I would have stood if vehicle not found. They would NOT pay out because I had declared a tracker was fitted. Read through the tracker small print. Basically tough shit if it goes and tracker not worked! All trackers cancelled on insurance and cancelled all contracts

Wow, was it a wired system? I've sent the one i have mentioned in a container to mexico and back, one car was recovered in southern Italy, and it does not work like a tracker as in no signal etc.

There are quiet a few dodgy ebay type specials out and about.    

[colr6]

These were wired tracker from a supposed reputable company tracker as fitted to A lot of top marque cars so my main point is read the small print!!!!

[diffed]

These were wired tracker from a supposed reputable company tracker as fitted to A lot of top marque cars so my main point is read the small print!!!!

You can get round a wired tracker in minutes, lucky you got yours back. 

[colr6]

Wasn't a case of getting round it the bloody thing didn't even work even though they are supposed to constantly check operation. Think that was a load of b<>#^*$ks aswell