bazoff72 Posted December 30, 2014 Report Posted December 30, 2014 Can anyone point me in the right direction of a retailer for a mk1 escort pinto full exhaust system and manifold open to all options i was thinking of a 2 1/4 to 2 1/2 inch system with only 1 back box mmm i think, preferably a s/steel manifold thanks guys...
Admin Vista Posted December 30, 2014 Admin Report Posted December 30, 2014 I use an Ashley 3 piece manifold mated to a custom 2 1/4" stainless system from long life. The Ashley manifold is a cost effective solution but does require certain mods to the car to get it to fit ok. If I were to do it now I'd probably go for an off the shelf stainless manifold such as these from Ashton Mobile http://www.oldskoolford.co.uk/ipb/index.php?/topic/76813-pinto-stainless-steel-manifolds/
bazoff72 Posted December 30, 2014 Author Report Posted December 30, 2014 Thanks Vista looking into it now cheers
JP. Posted December 31, 2014 Report Posted December 31, 2014 Beware, The exhaust system works as a heat conductor to, it means it takes away lots of engine heat from the engine. Stainless steel is a heat isolator and works the opposite way that's why stainless is preferred only to use for the system and not for the manifold. It great to use as a manifold in turbo applications as more heat reaches the turbo.
John escort mk1V6 Posted December 31, 2014 Report Posted December 31, 2014 Hi JP , what mainfold give`s a better flow an stainless or a normal one with wrapping ? I did hear one time that an wrap one get a better flow .,,,,,,,,,,,,and the ceramic to ?
JP. Posted December 31, 2014 Report Posted December 31, 2014 Normal one, no wrapping, no ceramic. Manifold acting as a heat conductor, exhaust gasses can cool down directly after leaving the head creating a slight scavenging effect in the exhaust tract where it leaves the head. The quicker the exhaust heat can cool down the more scavenging effect it creates ( equals more flow ). Wrapping the manifold is isolating the exhaust heat so it lowers your engine bay temperature, downside is more exhaust back pressure where it leaves the head as it takes longer before the exhaust gasses can cool down. People these days want bling. They don't want to show a rusty engine bay. So there's where stainless steel manifolds or wrap comes along. People say, ceramic will deliver bhp but I never saw a rolling road report with a before ceramic & after ceramic that supports it. Ceramic isolates heat. Unless, as stated before, turbo applications where you want to isolate all the exhaust heat before it enters the turbo to make it spool faster. Stainless steel manifolds or wrap or ceramic will do the trick. 1
SmokeEm Posted December 31, 2014 Report Posted December 31, 2014 If it were my money, I would go with a stainless manifold as offered by the Harris's and the Ashtons. Then if you want off the shelf system it would have to be Janspeed for me or a custom one made by Longlife.
John escort mk1V6 Posted December 31, 2014 Report Posted December 31, 2014 Normal one, no wrapping, no ceramic. Manifold acting as a heat conductor, exhaust gasses can cool down directly after leaving the head creating a slight scavenging effect in the exhaust tract where it leaves the head. The quicker the exhaust heat can cool down the more scavenging effect it creates ( equals more flow ). Wrapping the manifold is isolating the exhaust heat so it lowers your engine bay temperature, downside is more exhaust back pressure where it leaves the head as it takes longer before the exhaust gasses can cool down. People these days want bling. They don't want to show a rusty engine bay. So there's where stainless steel manifolds or wrap comes along. People say, ceramic will deliver bhp but I never saw a rolling road report with a before ceramic & after ceramic that supports it. Ceramic isolates heat. Unless, as stated before, turbo applications where you want to isolate all the exhaust heat before it enters the turbo to make it spool faster. Stainless steel manifolds or wrap or ceramic will do the trick. Thanks JP that works for me/daar kan ik wat mee.
GJUK Posted December 31, 2014 Report Posted December 31, 2014 I'm on the look out for a full system also, can't find a price for the Ashton systems, awaiting a reply to my PM on the cost.
bazoff72 Posted January 1, 2015 Author Report Posted January 1, 2015 Thanks for the comments and tips, just two more questions! if i buy a 2 1/2 inch manifold does that mean that i buy a 2 1/2 inch system too ,? does that fit? scratching my head and what is the difference between a 1 and 2 box system? thanks guys
JP. Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 2½" system means outside diameter. And yes if the system has the same dimensions, it should fit. 1 box = one muffler ( noisy ) 2 box = two mufflers.
bazoff72 Posted January 1, 2015 Author Report Posted January 1, 2015 ha ha thanks Jp so there is no real difference in power out put or anything like that
Joe-ashtonmobile Posted January 2, 2015 Report Posted January 2, 2015 We can offer manifold with complete stainless system, gjuk I haven't had any pm? If you both send me a pm will get it Sorted for you 2
mk2 mike Posted January 2, 2015 Report Posted January 2, 2015 I can vouch for the system offered by the Ashton's. Looks and sounds great. 1
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