MK2 1980 RS2000 for sale from South Africa

[Amith]

Hi All

 

For Sale from South Africa: MK2 1980 Ford Escort RS2000. £19500 negotiable

Description: Clean body. Leather interior. Sun roof. 17 inch mags. 2.0 Pinto engine with Go-Tech Management. Cowley exhaust system. Xenon lights. All I have to do is mount the glove box/cubby & realign the bonnet. 

Also Included: Spare engine block. Spare Garrett Turbo + Intercooler. Spare cylinder head.

 

The car is based in South Africa, please contact me below to arrange viewing with your local contact. Alternatively, there are companies you can contact that arrange overseas car sales. 

 

Please PM me here or contact me via email: rishinand.sewparsad@gmail.com or call/whatsapp +2772 630 2323 for more information.

 

Regards

[puddy]

So would that fetch 19500 sterling in South Africa if advertised locally ?

 

puddy

[Danxr2]

On another planet

[DT36]

I have a UK built RS2000 and it wouldn't fetch anywhere close to £19k.

This SA one would also incur shipping fees, import duty, and registration costs on top.

[Amith]

Hi

 

The price is negotiable to negate the shipping cost. The price also includes the spare engine block and head which is worked to a 2.2 motor.

 

Honestly, I priced it based on other RS2000's I saw advertised in the UK and all those were around and over £25000. 

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/classic_cars.php?category=&make=21&region=&country=&era=&advert_type=&price=&keyword=RS2000&S.x=40&S.y=18&S=Search

[2512pf]

Its worth as much as someone is prepared to pay

[BeigeAl]

Hi

 

The price is negotiable to negate the shipping cost. The price also includes the spare engine block and head which is worked to a 2.2 motor.

 

Honestly, I priced it based on other RS2000's I saw advertised in the UK and all those were around and over £25000. 

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/classic_cars.php?category=&make=21&region=&country=&era=&advert_type=&price=&keyword=RS2000&S.x=40&S.y=18&S=Search

It's funny that the majority of those adverts are for cars overseas to Britain. Not really reflective of our own market prices if your intention is to sell in UK !!

[Rally Pack 2000]

Its worth as much as someone is prepared to pay

 

But Im a cheap skate so that must severely diminish its value then.

[2512pf]

But Im a cheap skate so that must severely diminish its

Pvalue then.

Possibly

[puddy]

tbh , don't know what's pissing me off more lately ,

 

UK based importers buying up 'cheap' foreign osf's and then

 

asking uk original model prices , or foreign sellers that cannot even be bothered to

 

import said non uk original osf's asking for uk prices .

 

Its happening everywhere with classic cars and bikes , some won't even pay the nova fees ,

 

tight c***s !

 

Glwts btw .

 

puddy

[Rally Pack 2000]

tbh , don't know what's pissing me off more lately ,

 

UK based importers buying up 'cheap' foreign osf's and then

 

asking uk original model prices , or foreign sellers that cannot even be bothered to

 

import said non uk original osf's asking for uk prices .

 

Its happening everywhere with classic cars and bikes , some won't even pay the nova fees ,

 

tight c***s !

 

Glwts btw .

 

puddy

 

If its of any consolation it may help your frustration to look at it from the other side where the local markets have been totally plundered by UK buyers that you cant even get used spares any more and driving up prices to meet demand from overseas buyers that new local enthusiasts cant afford or reluctant to buy in for the first time. In the past 5 years a group of guys with temporary work visas (strangely mainly within the mining sector) from Ireland and Scotland and to a lesser extent England were spending all their free time (and cash presumably) buying up every part and car they could from all aspects of media and shipping them back by the container load. Its totally destroyed the local, as we call it "Small Ford Market". I haven’t found one instance where those having their cars snapped up ever gained anything over and above local market prices with the exception of price rises stemming from less vehicle availability driven by the market drain to the UK. As you say all the real significant profit and price raising mainly comes once offshore from your own locals out to make a large return when reselling in the UK. Sure you will get the odd local like this thread of someone trying to go it alone but given how long its been for sale that hasn’t actually worked out for the original poster. Locally you could easily buy an Australian RS2000 for half that although probably not as pristine.

 

While I can understand you feel your being ripped off in some way I can assure you we feel far more aggrieved at the situation wishing we could keep all our own stuff with many local sellers not even realising their cars are headed for a boat trip. There are quite a few enthusiasts upset by having the local market bled out from under them. I have had two Irish buyers and a Scottish one knocking at my door trying to buy my cars which I find totally scary given my Twincam hasn’t been seen on the road for many years and im not a member of any clubs to be associated with that have my address. Its a large scale professional operation that are gathering names and addresses and building data bases of car owners and their locations. So I wouldn’t be too mad at the odd individuals trying to cut out the middle man as they have more right to any gains than the hunter gatherers. When you see some sellers with 6 or more cars for sale from one country you can be assured they paid alot less than the ticket price they gave the original owners. So too there is always been this implication that a UK made vehicle is better and therefore more valuable than from elsewhere when in fact some design features are superior to their UK counterparts so your definitely not getting less car for your money in any way.

 

Mind you Ive said before and I will say it again, you guys are TOTALLY NUTS what you will pay for a crummy old Escort, its no surprise why this intercontinental vacuum exists.

[puddy]

If its of any consolation it may help your frustration to look at it from the other side where the local markets have been totally plundered by UK buyers that you cant even get used spares any more and driving up prices to meet demand from overseas buyers that new local enthusiasts cant afford or reluctant to buy in for the first time. In the past 5 years a group of guys with temporary work visas (strangely mainly within the mining sector) from Ireland and Scotland and to a lesser extent England were spending all their free time (and cash presumably) buying up every part and car they could from all aspects of media and shipping them back by the container load. Its totally destroyed the local, as we call it "Small Ford Market". I haven’t found one instance where those having their cars snapped up ever gained anything over and above local market prices with the exception of price rises stemming from less vehicle availability driven by the market drain to the UK. As you say all the real significant profit and price raising mainly comes once offshore from your own locals out to make a large return when reselling in the UK. Sure you will get the odd local like this thread of someone trying to go it alone but given how long its been for sale that hasn’t actually worked out for the original poster. Locally you could easily buy an Australian RS2000 for half that although probably not as pristine.

 

While I can understand you feel your being ripped off in some way I can assure you we feel far more aggrieved at the situation wishing we could keep all our own stuff with many local sellers not even realising their cars are headed for a boat trip. There are quite a few enthusiasts upset by having the local market bled out from under them. I have had two Irish buyers and a Scottish one knocking at my door trying to buy my cars which I find totally scary given my Twincam hasn’t been seen on the road for many years and im not a member of any clubs to be associated with that have my address. Its a large scale professional operation that are gathering names and addresses and building data bases of car owners and their locations. So I wouldn’t be too mad at the odd individuals trying to cut out the middle man as they have more right to any gains than the hunter gatherers. When you see some sellers with 6 or more cars for sale from one country you can be assured they paid alot less than the ticket price they gave the original owners. So too there is always been this implication that a UK made vehicle is better and therefore more valuable than from elsewhere when in fact some design features are superior to their UK counterparts so your definitely not getting less car for your money in any way.

 

Mind you Ive said before and I will say it again, you guys are TOTALLY NUTS what you will pay for a crummy old Escort, its no surprise why this intercontinental vacuum exists.

 

I don't know if you read my post , but my dislike is for both types of scammers .

 

I completely agree with you , that's the problem when a global market kills local markets ,

 

the little people in both lose out .

 

puddy

[2512pf]

I got a sa escort and I wouldn't think twice about getting another one

You can keep the rotten uk cars,give me a car with an rs shell from a warm climate all day long

[SmokeEm]

Guys, stop clogging up this guys thread. Its his car and your opinions have not been asked for. It is what it is and whilst your thoughts have some merit, a for sale ad isn't where they should be discussed.

[Vista]

Guys, stop clogging up this guys thread. Its his car and your opinions have not been asked for. It is what it is and whilst your thoughts have some merit, a for sale ad isn't where they should be discussed.

Agreed, if the price is right it'll sell. If it's not, it won't. Simples.

 

Feel free to start another thread on this topic though as it's an interesting one.

[Amith]

Thank you @SmokeEm & @Vista

 

I was beginning to give up on this site/forum... under siege over a simple sale.

 

Instead of the unnecessary comments why not start a conversation and offer advice on the price. This is my first time doing something like this and I am automatically treated like a scammer.

 

This is a legitimate car & sale. If the price is too high then tell me, I am not from your country and don't know the MOT & import cost, that's why the price is negotiable... 

[Vista]

Thank you @SmokeEm & @Vista

 

I was beginning to give up on this site/forum... under siege over a simple sale.

 

Instead of the unnecessary comments why not start a conversation and offer advice on the price. This is my first time doing something like this and I am automatically treated like a scammer.

 

This is a legitimate car & sale. If the price is too high then tell me, I am not from your country and don't know the MOT & import cost, that's why the price is negotiable... 

 

No problem, one piece of advice for you though as I deal with a lot of members who import cars from South Africa and then have problems registering them over here because the South African registration document doesn't have details of the date of manufacture.......which our registration body won't register a car without proof of. When you do sell it, if it comes over to the UK, I suggest you get something from your local Ford dealer on headed paper that says when the car was made. It will greatly help who ever you sell it to.

 

As to the cost of shipping and import duty, I have no idea but your car is currently priced on par with ones already available in the UK. It would therefore need to be reduced by some amount to reflect that additional cost.

[2512pf]

I agree with most things said above

The bottom line is ,it's amiths car and he can ask what he wants for it

Registering a South African car is simple

Welding a uk car is much more difficult

[Rally Pack 2000]

Guys, stop clogging up this guys thread. Its his car and your opinions have not been asked for. It is what it is and whilst your thoughts have some merit, a for sale ad isn't where they should be discussed.

 

I can see your point but no one has really clogged anything to the point that its message is not getting out there, in fact the opposite is true. Things arising about the car and particulars and location are quite relevant and the discussion was actively bringing more visitors to the thread highlighting it. Some of the concerns and issues are very much valid especially a for sale item half way around the world. For sale threads have never been discussion free that I have ever seen in fact some of the most interesting and informative information can be garnered in them. Said discussions bring interested parties together and concerns and hurdles they may face bringing in a car from so far away may be eased or alternatively unforeseen issues the unwary may face. Local for sale threads are a lot less complicated at worst being is the diff so low will it just buzz on the motorway getting it home.

 

Thank you @SmokeEm & @Vista

 

I was beginning to give up on this site/forum... under siege over a simple sale.

 

Instead of the unnecessary comments why not start a conversation and offer advice on the price. This is my first time doing something like this and I am automatically treated like a scammer.

 

This is a legitimate car & sale. If the price is too high then tell me, I am not from your country and don't know the MOT & import cost, that's why the price is negotiable... 

 

This comment I really will take issue to however. Give up on this forum? You sir have never contributed to any thread on this forum since you joined over six moths ago other than adding one of your for sale posts. There has not been a single post from you until April 1st when started basically blanket bombing every open wanted thread, even some dead threads that were over a year old . So much so that it filled the recent posts box on the right of the Forums main page on the day. One cannot draw any conclusion other the sole purpose for your contributing has been and is to sell this particular vehicle, well ok that is what it is.  So yes some probably do feel a bit aggrieved as that was one of the worst spamming incidents I have ever seen on the forum.  The manner presented and that the intent here is just as a platform for you to sell something, it can and does strike a nerve that the forum is being taken advantage of. Some push back and reticence because of the spamming manner and the "sales only" push in every contribution you have made is something you just have take on the chin from not being a regular contributor unfortunately. The issues facing a first time purchaser for a car round the other side of the world can be monumental. So calls to discuss shipping and costs and UK equivalency pricing are not invalid. You dont know the regulations or import costs? Neither do most purchasers in another country so since your the seller some research still needs to be done hence some of the valid comments that some extra work at your end may be required.

 

There I have clogged up the thread again. Feel free to reprimand.

[Vista]

Reaches for popcorn

[colr6]

Is this not the idea of a forum so from a simple FOR SALE ad it has diversified into to the why's and wherefors of purchasing a car from halfway around the world. No disrespect to seller but there are enough scams going on in the uk with the above mentioned vehicles let alone those offered for sale from overseas. Rightly so alarm bells start ringing and should be discussed without offending the seller. The guy has put a value on it and that's it, to educate him on the possible pitfalls of selling to the uk would be more useful the help the sale of his vehicle.

[SmokeEm]

I have no need to tell anyone off. By all means start a thread in chit chat or whatever saying 'Have you seen the for sale ad' and have your discussion there. This is a For Sale ad. Please respect that and leave it here.