Tca bushes mk2 van.

[Johnny Boy]

Quick question,  I'm fitting  new track control  arms to my mk2  van.

Is there supposed  to be a tube that goes though  the std bush, onto the anti roll bar, to stop you  over tightening the nut.

Mine does not have , and I can just keep tightening  way past the split pin to castellated nut .

Something  is not right.

Any idea's?

 

[Johnny Boy]

[Nige65]

Yes, there should be a tube inside the rubber bush to prevent overtightening, you can normally tell if one is fitted as the split pin hole should line up with castellation's on the nut once tightness has been achieved.

[Miniliteman]

Yes. See photo in the link (these are polybushes but idea is the same).

https://www.burtonpower.com/outer-tca-bush-set-escort-mk1-2-capri-sf0420kss.html

[Johnny Boy]

Thanks for the quick reply, I'm putting all the front end back together, and it just didn't look right.

The tubes must have been lost somewhere in South Africa 😬

Any one know where I can get some tubes from, other than buying a set of poly bushes.

I have new arms with new rubber bushes, but no tubes 🙄

[Johnny Boy]

Or does anyone know the tube size, or can measure one they have in there box of bits, I could make something up perhaps ?

[Miniliteman]

My NOS one for a Mk2 RS2 is: length = 30,5 mm, outer dia = 19,0 mm, inner dia = 16,0 mm.

Maybe this one could fit:

https://www.gartrac.com/collections/escort-mk1-escort-mk2-front-suspension/products/escort-mk1-mk2-twin-cam-roll-bar-sleeve-bush

[Johnny Boy]

Great, I have some thin wall tube, in my usfull box.

Just happens to be 19mm od 16mm Id. 

Thanks very much for the quick info, I'm actually  doing the job right now 🙃 

I guessed at 34mm looking at the nut and hole for the split pin.

I might try that, and check the caster.

As I have just fitted lowering springs  of minus 2 inch, it will have more caster now.

 

 

 

Edited October 25, 2023 by Johnny Boy

[Johnny Boy]

That should be less caster 

And the bush length will have no bearing  on the caster 

Edited October 26, 2023 by Johnny Boy

[Miniliteman]

11 hours ago, Johnny Boy said:

That should be less caster 

And the bush length will have no bearing  on the caster 

Fitting -2 inch springs will lead to more castor (and more camber).

[Johnny Boy]

6 hours ago, Miniliteman said:

Fitting -2 inch springs will lead to more castor (and more camber).

If the anti roll bar is pointing down.

And it gets lower by the minus 2 springs, surely  the arc of the anti roll bar getting flatter, means the bottom of the strut is pushed back, meaning less castor from the upright , and more camber .

I'm confused 

[Miniliteman]

22 minutes ago, Johnny Boy said:

If the anti roll bar is pointing down.

And it gets lower by the minus 2 springs, surely  the arc of the anti roll bar getting flatter, means the bottom of the strut is pushed back, meaning less castor from the upright , and more camber .

I'm confused 

My apologies, you are right. (old age and so ...)

[Johnny Boy]

1 hour ago, Miniliteman said:

My apologies, you are right. (old age and so ...)

You and me both 😄

Edited October 27, 2023 by Johnny Boy

[Johnny Boy]

Today's job, fit the correct tca bush tubes and fit newanti roll bar bushes