Gasless Mig Welders

[atomic punk]

Anyone ever used one?

I've been using one for the last few years and never been happy with it, now that I have tried conventional Mig with shielding gas I found it so much better and neater

 

I've heard that gasless MiG is not really any good for cars due to the extra power needed

 

Can anyone give me the lowdown? Am I better off converting my welder to traditional MiG?

 

Thanks

[BIG G]

Splatter Splatter get the gas connected

[Ratters]

personally i've always used gas mig. both in work doing heavy welding & at home on motors. i read a thread somewhere recently [might have been retro rides?!?] & most people prefered gas mig over gasless but there were a few who had never had any trouble & were happy using gasless.

[Deano1351]

Iv got a gasless mig, its sheeeiiiite, havnt used it for years!!

[mk2 stu]

Shit!!! without argoshield even c02 is poor , you need the gas to protect cool and flow the weld!

[flyingbanana]

my welder can do both...gasless or non....ive got used to both

[ant100E]

The problem with a gass-less MIG is the "gas" is produced by the action of melting the filler wire, and the flux coating on the wire being heated up and turning into a shielding gas. This is great in theory, and can be made to work in absolute controlled conditions i.e. inside and with no air movement, but in reality its a complete waste of time and leads to pigeon dropping welding.....

 

Go for a good MIG welder with an Argon & CO2 mix like BOC's Argonshield light etc and you won't go far wrong.

 

Cheers

[bigglesmk2]

I've been using gasless for a few years and just thought i was crap at welding ,me think me gonna get gas

[ant100E]

Yes mate.

 

Try a propoer MIG setup with an Argon & CO2 mix and you will never go back..............

[over_head_cam]

Argoshield 'proper' welding is best deffo.

 

I've been using flux core for years and I can get quite a good bead going, but it does make a splattery mess everywhere and you can get a bit wobbly on thin panels. Taking the shroud off the torch helps and hold the torch a couple of mm further away fron the work will help.

 

But gas is best

[beedz]

been using gasless for a while now, it is a bit harder to see the bead properly, and is messier, but to be honest i got the welder for £30 and it does the job for me

[atomic punk]

Looks like I'll be converting to the shielding gas then I can always change back if need be

 

Thanks for the advice

[James HPE Motorsport]

But gas is cheating

[atomic punk]

LOL you could try Argon but I doubt it would have the same effect as Nitrous

[abarth78]

no mate its not

to be fair stick a bit stinker on the hood...

NOS INSIDE

you know that way your opponent will be warned

[joker]

inject co2 to the carbs mate instead of on board fire extinguisher

[Mick The Mig]

I started out in the early days with CO2 from the local fire extinguisher guy in an old bottle from the brewery! Had lots of problems with the welding nozzle freezing! Eventually stumped up the cash for a regulator set and an account at BOC for argo sheild light bottles. Never looked back since. With careful prep' work have stuck together 10mm steel, stainless and some small cast iron parts. GAS RULES.